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March 3, 2022

Are Entrepreneurs Born or Made?

Are Entrepreneurs Born or Made?

Kicking off the 2nd series of season 1, the X.T.C. crew talks about the mindset and motivation of entrepreneurship. In this series’ first episode, we’re jumping head-first into the race … don't trip! Tristian hits us right off the bat with the long-debated question, “are entrepreneurs made or are they born that way?” His “dawg”, Chris, believes it’s a combination of nature vs. nurture, while Xaulanda puts on her Ph.D. hat to drop some stats on the various factors that play into our nature and nurture mindsets and motivations. So, what about you? Were you born an entrepreneur or did you become one through circumstance or necessity? Whatever your relationship is with entrepreneurship, it is going to be one hell of a trip!

Transcript
WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.639 --> 00:00:08.080 Welcome to the entrepreneurs trip. We are ecstasy. I'm Chalanda, I'm trysting 2 00:00:08.400 --> 00:00:13.199 and I'm Chris. As an entrepreneur starting and growing your business, you may 3 00:00:13.199 --> 00:00:17.199 have a destination, but the journey getting there can be a trip. We 4 00:00:17.320 --> 00:00:22.559 want to be your travel companions and inject a dose of ecstasy as we explore 5 00:00:22.640 --> 00:00:29.079 real life conversations about navigating the world of the entrepreneurship in the US and the 6 00:00:29.120 --> 00:00:35.439 Caribbean. How you guys do? Doing good, doing good. All Right, 7 00:00:35.520 --> 00:00:38.200 Chris, you got all the centers ready, you got everything ready for 8 00:00:38.280 --> 00:00:44.200 us, because last week Salana got I'm on nerves and I know you have 9 00:00:44.320 --> 00:00:48.200 a lot of editing to do and I just want you to be ready for 10 00:00:48.240 --> 00:00:52.079 this, because I'm starting it with the in live a disclaimer, Slanda, 11 00:00:52.119 --> 00:00:56.320 there's no women in this. I just want you to be because you're the 12 00:00:56.439 --> 00:01:02.560 only woman for makes that's how long as you're staying diverse, diverse, aware, 13 00:01:02.719 --> 00:01:07.959 I'm fine with it. I'm from the Caribbean. How much more diverse 14 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:19.640 could we get? So today's topic and discussion is entrepreneurs made or what do 15 00:01:19.640 --> 00:01:22.920 you guys think? Right off the top, I'm not even go to she 16 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:30.680 landa. I'm a hit to my dogs. I think that it's a good 17 00:01:30.760 --> 00:01:36.159 question. I think some people are definitely made to be entrepreneurs, but I 18 00:01:36.200 --> 00:01:41.040 think there's a balance of nature verse nurture and I think both of those components 19 00:01:41.079 --> 00:01:45.680 can sometimes play play into it. So whether you're born with it or decide 20 00:01:45.719 --> 00:01:48.359 later on, or are born with it but decide not to do it, 21 00:01:48.480 --> 00:01:52.599 I think a lot of people take different paths. It's interesting, like how 22 00:01:52.640 --> 00:01:55.280 you said that if you're born with it but decide not to do it. 23 00:01:56.280 --> 00:01:59.120 Ys, we of all stories of blessings with, oh no, I'm not 24 00:01:59.319 --> 00:02:01.280 going to get into these stories with risky's not Chris Guy. He's going to 25 00:02:01.319 --> 00:02:08.599 have a problem. Olly, with the little pebble creates big ripples love. 26 00:02:14.719 --> 00:02:16.759 Well, actually, you know, I think it's a combination of both. 27 00:02:16.879 --> 00:02:22.800 And when you look at the research Dr Albert Bendora, who is the father 28 00:02:22.919 --> 00:02:25.680 of social cognitive theory. Yes, I'm putting on my page D here, 29 00:02:27.639 --> 00:02:34.759 Christan states that we are both products and producers of our environment, and I 30 00:02:34.759 --> 00:02:44.360 think that stands true entrepreneurs as well. Right, our environment definitely helps to 31 00:02:44.599 --> 00:02:50.120 stare us in a particular direction, but because we are also producers were kind 32 00:02:50.120 --> 00:02:53.599 of born with some of those traits, right. So it's definitely a combination 33 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:59.599 of both that play hand in hand with each other. See, I'm bringing 34 00:02:59.599 --> 00:03:12.439 down on my take Yonda. Let's go look, you just catch it, 35 00:03:15.439 --> 00:03:23.319 Popolo. So welcome, welcome, welcome. This is season one, series 36 00:03:23.400 --> 00:03:30.879 two, and what this section is about is mindset and motivation. All right. 37 00:03:31.000 --> 00:03:36.759 So I definitely, definitely, definitely agree with that bomb Aslana joplown that's 38 00:03:36.840 --> 00:03:40.520 just now. I love the words product of our environment and definitely how it 39 00:03:40.599 --> 00:03:46.479 is with crisp kind of reference. Then the mindset. So we got motivation 40 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:53.240 from Salanda and was it from Chris? It's Chris. I'm waiting for the 41 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:55.639 MISET. I'm still waiting for that. All that hope that you're going to 42 00:03:55.759 --> 00:04:00.159 drop. So what I want you guys to just keep in mind, and 43 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:05.680 here's a quick fact, last year, according to the US Census Bureau, 44 00:04:06.960 --> 00:04:15.759 about five point four million new businesses were filed in the US. Now, 45 00:04:15.800 --> 00:04:20.319 before the pandemic, we're looking at three point four million, right. So 46 00:04:20.439 --> 00:04:25.000 that definitely goes into I want to say I call it, you know, 47 00:04:25.120 --> 00:04:29.959 that survival mode. All right. So now we got hit with a pandemic, 48 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:32.879 and this is a it was a crazy start to me because during a 49 00:04:32.920 --> 00:04:36.360 pandemic is where I would think that we would kind of like recess. I'm 50 00:04:36.439 --> 00:04:41.920 not going to take any risks. This is happening. However, it looked 51 00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:46.959 like it created these situations where we have to eat. So what do we 52 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:50.959 do in these situations? A lot of US society to start business. Now, 53 00:04:51.000 --> 00:04:55.040 the interesting fact about that, or the interesting thing about it, is 54 00:04:55.079 --> 00:04:59.319 that one I want. I saw it. I was like, you know, 55 00:04:59.560 --> 00:05:00.879 it kind of makes sense to because we were giving out a lot of 56 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:06.399 federal moneys for businesses and a lot of aid. Sounds like maybe they just 57 00:05:06.439 --> 00:05:13.199 started these businesses for the startup money. You know, however, I can't 58 00:05:13.199 --> 00:05:15.160 prove it and we will have yet to see, and I think we got 59 00:05:15.160 --> 00:05:18.199 to give it about another year. We would be able to like look at 60 00:05:18.240 --> 00:05:21.680 the stats and be like, man, out of these five point four million 61 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:29.759 businesses, we're back down to three point, you know whatever. So on. 62 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:31.319 That's what it is like. That was one of the train of thoughts 63 00:05:31.360 --> 00:05:38.399 that kind of went through my mind. However, also goes into simple business 64 00:05:38.399 --> 00:05:44.920 models, supplying the man. So now where your larger companies are laying off. 65 00:05:45.360 --> 00:05:48.040 Now there's a lot of need for smaller companies to pick up certain slacks 66 00:05:48.160 --> 00:05:53.199 on. I think we had a lot more catering businesses that kind of popped 67 00:05:53.279 --> 00:05:57.439 up. So a lot more smaller, I don't want to come service businesses, 68 00:05:57.480 --> 00:06:01.639 but I don't want you to think about like like cleaning businesses. But 69 00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:05.680 they like the doors picked up. You see what I'm saying? A lot 70 00:06:05.759 --> 00:06:12.240 mortal supply and the Larry delivery services picked up in their businesses. A lot 71 00:06:12.279 --> 00:06:16.240 more people just, I honestly, just ventured out into it. But now, 72 00:06:16.639 --> 00:06:25.240 given our situation, it created a new mindset, Chris, in which 73 00:06:25.279 --> 00:06:29.639 now we're looking at we have to survive, we have to do that something 74 00:06:29.720 --> 00:06:38.360 more. So is that something that we're born with, that intuition that says 75 00:06:38.360 --> 00:06:43.439 we got to do something more, or is it something that's nurtured our environment 76 00:06:43.480 --> 00:06:46.800 that's saying, hey, things are changing and now I have to find a 77 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:53.600 way? You want to jump being craty. You want me to take this 78 00:06:53.639 --> 00:07:06.000 one. No, I like one. Chris Golds for some of them put. 79 00:07:06.759 --> 00:07:10.160 Thank you, Chris, you're such a gentleman. Let The lady go 80 00:07:10.399 --> 00:07:18.240 first. Firston I'm what I would say is I know that you're saying the 81 00:07:18.319 --> 00:07:27.639 motivation was very much external because of covid and people's need to survive, especially 82 00:07:27.639 --> 00:07:31.399 when they were being laid out from a job right eight. That's definitely. 83 00:07:31.720 --> 00:07:39.279 That definitely was a motivator. But I also think that the pandemic stirred and 84 00:07:39.519 --> 00:07:46.160 intrinsic motivation and a lot of us, when cold it happened and we had 85 00:07:46.240 --> 00:07:55.079 that shutdown, people instantly were taken off of the rat race, Ferris wheel 86 00:07:55.160 --> 00:07:59.240 or the treadmill that they were constantly on seeking to get more and more and 87 00:07:59.319 --> 00:08:03.279 more, to do more and more more, and we literally had to stop. 88 00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:09.360 And in that pause, right, not a permanently halted like we talked 89 00:08:09.399 --> 00:08:16.360 about in a previous episode, that pause, it actually gave people space, 90 00:08:16.800 --> 00:08:22.240 time and capacity to think, and in that time of thinking I think a 91 00:08:22.240 --> 00:08:26.800 lot of people looked at where their life was at that point of in time, 92 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:35.559 particularly working for organizations where at any moment that organization could let you let 93 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:43.120 you go. So no longer that that that illusion of job security that blew 94 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:46.320 up in smoke. Will started saying, okay, if I'm working for an 95 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:52.120 organization thirty something years and they could just let me go, like that right 96 00:08:52.159 --> 00:08:58.840 because of some external circumstance. Is What is my purpose in life? What 97 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:01.320 is it that I want to focus sign? And so I think that that 98 00:09:03.279 --> 00:09:09.200 intrinsic motivation, which is something that you're born with, got fueled, makes 99 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:13.919 sense, makes anovicense, it's a lot of sense. Yeah, because of 100 00:09:15.120 --> 00:09:20.360 Covid, the market shifted, a lot of people were pivoting and it opened 101 00:09:20.440 --> 00:09:24.519 up opportunities for people to be creative, to innovate and to start new businesses. 102 00:09:26.000 --> 00:09:31.200 So it's almost like, you know, the years before covid was toiling 103 00:09:31.240 --> 00:09:35.039 the soil and then covid allow people to plant the seeds, HMM, to 104 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:46.360 start water them and to start to grow catch that mic right now, I 105 00:09:46.360 --> 00:09:52.960 don't have a miccrock yet, but no, Salana, definitely definitely agree, 106 00:09:52.960 --> 00:09:58.360 and that's where kind of goes to where I felt like during covid. Well, 107 00:09:58.759 --> 00:10:01.919 honestly, that definitely I definitely agree what it is that you're saying. 108 00:10:01.960 --> 00:10:05.399 All right, I think just think during covid it created more of a nurture 109 00:10:05.559 --> 00:10:11.600 aspect. where it is it like you saying that that force was external, 110 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:15.279 it wasn't that internal force? To me, that the internal force is what 111 00:10:15.320 --> 00:10:18.600 it is that you're born with, but it's like a hidden talent. So 112 00:10:18.639 --> 00:10:22.320 we kept it buried. We didn't really want to do anything much because we 113 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:28.200 were comfortable, and that's why it is we became entrepreneurs from the first series. 114 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:31.440 Like we were saying, is that we want it change something. There's 115 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:37.240 something that's going on that we want to change right the the that's our fundamentals 116 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:39.480 of just being an entrepreneur. Whatever it is, I don't like it, 117 00:10:39.559 --> 00:10:43.080 I'm gonna do something different. And that's where it is. I thought about 118 00:10:43.120 --> 00:10:46.399 it and it hit me where. It was like, you know what, 119 00:10:46.360 --> 00:10:52.840 it seems more of a nurturrous situation. However, however, not, but 120 00:10:54.080 --> 00:11:00.039 however, you know, it seems like it's. Then, however, it's 121 00:11:00.080 --> 00:11:03.159 just a fancy wait to sebout normal. We say, but you're going to 122 00:11:05.080 --> 00:11:09.000 way, no, but you cancel out what you said before. Well, 123 00:11:09.039 --> 00:11:16.720 I see how you see just probably. I was like, but, however, 124 00:11:16.879 --> 00:11:26.879 getting and my friend, so let's Tarn it again. And and it 125 00:11:26.919 --> 00:11:30.919 just brought out the fact that, like you were saying, I feel like 126 00:11:31.279 --> 00:11:35.159 it's just like our late empower, that we really wanted to do something, 127 00:11:35.200 --> 00:11:39.440 and I would just gave it that extra fuel in which we're now doing what 128 00:11:39.480 --> 00:11:41.440 it is. I want to say that we truly love things that we're passionate 129 00:11:41.559 --> 00:11:45.519 about, like in doing the research for this, I found like it was 130 00:11:45.519 --> 00:11:50.799 a lot of lot of catering companies that opened up, and it was not 131 00:11:50.840 --> 00:11:54.919 even just cater because it's catering delivery companies that came about. Because now they're 132 00:11:54.919 --> 00:12:01.679 preparing me right, we're prepared me and we need to get them to these. 133 00:12:01.960 --> 00:12:05.519 I want to say two. I hate the term shuttings because we work 134 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:11.399 completely shutting during the pandemic, but it gave us that feast sound. SPAKE 135 00:12:11.480 --> 00:12:20.120 for yourself. I spent three months in quarantine in Florida in my town house. 136 00:12:20.879 --> 00:12:28.039 Yes, quarantining in the Virgin Islands is drastically different than quarantine, e. 137 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:31.519 In the mainland. Okay, that's one of the reasons I decided to 138 00:12:31.519 --> 00:12:35.200 come home during as soon as I could come home, because it's it's a 139 00:12:35.240 --> 00:12:41.159 little bit more even though they're they're more stringent with like mask mandates and things 140 00:12:41.200 --> 00:12:46.919 like that, because we're on an island and we have the nice weather and 141 00:12:46.960 --> 00:12:52.080 we you can go hiking out in nature and not see anybody that we can. 142 00:12:52.240 --> 00:12:56.399 We have those outdoor activities where you can go to the beach and isolate. 143 00:12:56.480 --> 00:13:00.159 You can still have a level of normalcy, but at least for me, 144 00:13:00.600 --> 00:13:03.799 and Chris can chime in, I spent three months in Florida in my 145 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:09.320 town house by myself and the only people that I had any human interaction with 146 00:13:11.000 --> 00:13:15.879 was instat art for my groceries, the delivery people for the food that I 147 00:13:16.039 --> 00:13:20.200 ordered, and thank God for vose wagon because my car needed to be serviced 148 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:22.480 at one point in time and they came picked it up, serviced and drove 149 00:13:22.519 --> 00:13:28.200 it right down into my gorge. Yeah, talk about Nice customer service. 150 00:13:28.679 --> 00:13:35.519 Yeah, so I think our experiences of quarantining are very different depending on where 151 00:13:35.559 --> 00:13:43.600 that happened, and also it also vary based on whether or not you believed 152 00:13:43.639 --> 00:13:50.679 that covid was really a thing and wanted to take the necessary for cautious to 153 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:56.000 protect yourself and your loved one. Right, because here in the Caribbean, 154 00:13:56.039 --> 00:14:00.360 I think it hit home, it was really real where, I think, 155 00:14:00.360 --> 00:14:05.279 even if part of the younger community didn't get vaccinated, we were advocating that 156 00:14:05.360 --> 00:14:09.279 are all the community definitely do. But the one thing I said nothing one 157 00:14:09.279 --> 00:14:15.200 thing that we did have the pretty well was we stay maxed uff work, 158 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:20.679 community that embrace like embraces all the time. Chris hugs cases is that that's 159 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:28.600 what we do. We adapted quickly. We couldn't write. We adapted quickly 160 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:31.639 the first bump, the little depths that that became the thing. It surprised 161 00:14:31.639 --> 00:14:35.600 me one day when I have hunt and I saw her out at the bank 162 00:14:35.639 --> 00:14:39.200 and I was like, I just don't even know what to do anymore, 163 00:14:39.240 --> 00:14:41.000 and she was like it's okay if you put out her little elbow for me. 164 00:14:41.039 --> 00:14:46.679 All that. Oh yeah, I'll see you what all definitely plays to 165 00:14:46.840 --> 00:14:52.519 that. Chris. I'm all kick it to you and I'm see if you 166 00:14:52.559 --> 00:15:00.240 give me a little nurture. I did nature. Now I think definitely agree 167 00:15:00.279 --> 00:15:03.879 with what both you guys were saying and for me, I think in Shawndi 168 00:15:03.960 --> 00:15:09.840 were kind of touching on this. But People's fight or flight responses were triggered 169 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:15.200 and that comes back to the nature verse nurture. But I know a lot 170 00:15:15.200 --> 00:15:22.240 of people who handled the pandemic and being quarantined very differently. I myself, 171 00:15:22.279 --> 00:15:26.440 at least for the first couple weeks, definitely put on a little bit away. 172 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:30.879 That took a kind of like hurricanes here in Florida. You buy all 173 00:15:30.960 --> 00:15:33.559 this food to prefer it hurts, you never come, so you just sit 174 00:15:33.559 --> 00:15:39.840 in your apartment and you eat all the food. Freshman fifty exactly. But 175 00:15:39.960 --> 00:15:43.039 then when I did start, you know, seeing other people again, I 176 00:15:43.080 --> 00:15:46.039 saw some other people who, like went the other direction. All of a 177 00:15:46.039 --> 00:15:50.039 sudden they were in, you know, incredible shape and just doing things or 178 00:15:50.039 --> 00:15:54.279 for their businesses and what have you. And I think a lot of it 179 00:15:54.360 --> 00:15:58.559 was just how you handled the situation. I mean, whether it was out 180 00:15:58.559 --> 00:16:03.399 of boredom or necessity, you know, being stuck at home. And and 181 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:07.639 yes, you do have those, you know, the stimulus checks, which 182 00:16:07.639 --> 00:16:12.919 again maybe be covering necessities, but if for other people that was additional income, 183 00:16:12.960 --> 00:16:17.840 that, you know, might have been the seed money to start their 184 00:16:17.840 --> 00:16:22.600 passion projects. Finally, but I think the big thing again is just how 185 00:16:22.639 --> 00:16:26.960 it was handled and and I think people shifted throughout time. As, as 186 00:16:26.960 --> 00:16:33.919 you know, quarantines lasted longer than and initially anticipated for many and like myself, 187 00:16:33.960 --> 00:16:36.399 I mean we kind of worried. Wife and I were waiting for it 188 00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:40.080 to blow over a little bit, and then it didn't, and then so 189 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:41.919 we kind of not that we weren't taking seriously from the beginning, but we 190 00:16:42.039 --> 00:16:48.000 were starting to Ada adapt an adjust our lifestyle. In my business, I 191 00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:51.639 mean I took as a video production company. You know, I had just 192 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:56.720 made a huge purchase in January of that year to have a new, you 193 00:16:56.799 --> 00:17:00.600 know camera to go out in the field and start shooting, and then all 194 00:17:00.600 --> 00:17:03.759 of a sudden I have nowhere to go and shoot. So it became a 195 00:17:03.840 --> 00:17:08.440 matter of, you know, transferring everything online and that was a whole another 196 00:17:10.079 --> 00:17:11.680 you know, amount of purchases when I didn't know if I was going to 197 00:17:11.720 --> 00:17:15.839 get a good return on it or again, how long covid would last. 198 00:17:15.880 --> 00:17:21.839 So yeah, I think it's just for many people, if you had the 199 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:26.240 time, the resource and the circumstances, and it did trigger a need to 200 00:17:26.720 --> 00:17:29.519 do something different. I think a lot of people took advantage of that. 201 00:17:29.640 --> 00:17:33.160 And for others, you know, and understandably so, Covid, which is 202 00:17:33.319 --> 00:17:37.920 very taxing and being the quarantine, was very taxing for people and many of 203 00:17:38.039 --> 00:17:42.720 them, I think, may have suffered or not taken those opportunities to do 204 00:17:42.839 --> 00:17:49.880 something different. It definitely was on which you talking about the investments made. 205 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:56.079 I've definitely made some investments to. I just never really realize how I pivoted 206 00:17:56.799 --> 00:18:00.440 all part of the reason being is goes. I'm still chasing some passion projects 207 00:18:00.599 --> 00:18:07.160 of them that scale back, push back to a level I never anticipated. 208 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:11.880 Never thought that it would have been hard to schedule some interviews during the pandemic 209 00:18:12.720 --> 00:18:17.039 because, like how it turned, it up turned out being would you said 210 00:18:17.119 --> 00:18:22.200 something, something very really between the Chris and this is your nugget that I 211 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:26.200 got and it's it goes back to us and, like we said, this 212 00:18:26.359 --> 00:18:30.920 is about real conversations. So the one thing I would have never, ever, 213 00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:36.599 ever, ever, think, and we'll see myself doing as a podcast 214 00:18:37.039 --> 00:18:45.039 and and look at how the pansademic has pained, that I worked on projects 215 00:18:45.079 --> 00:18:48.759 where I somewhat set them up for other people. Thought about doing it. 216 00:18:48.200 --> 00:18:51.799 You are does this. I don't want to. I want to call the 217 00:18:51.880 --> 00:18:59.119 tiny desk. MPR was pushing for giving seed money to start new podcast. 218 00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:03.960 I applied for that like two times before. It's kind of unsuccessful. That 219 00:19:04.039 --> 00:19:08.359 they kind of did it in rounds was unsuccessful. I was like fine, 220 00:19:08.920 --> 00:19:14.039 came up at your own Promo, pitch, the whole nine so I work 221 00:19:14.480 --> 00:19:18.799 on them, but I just never saw myself actually completely being a part of 222 00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:23.680 them. So would you say which is kind of cool about this project, 223 00:19:23.880 --> 00:19:30.079 though, because both of you, you tasted any Chris, are you to 224 00:19:30.160 --> 00:19:37.200 being behind the camera right now, in the camera right right, and that's 225 00:19:37.240 --> 00:19:41.839 a beauty of it. Like for this project and how it brought us together, 226 00:19:41.079 --> 00:19:45.359 you should. I'm saying it was a I don't think without the pandemic 227 00:19:45.480 --> 00:19:48.759 we may have come together, would have collaborated like this. Were custom of 228 00:19:48.839 --> 00:19:52.799 working, which Lanna and doing different things. But before the pandemic, before 229 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:57.680 her her I want to hear her. How, my Gosh, what she 230 00:19:57.759 --> 00:20:07.559 called it? Quarantine, the teams. Oh, it sounds like something out 231 00:20:07.559 --> 00:20:11.920 of the all that horrible we man like this tonic three months straight and no 232 00:20:12.079 --> 00:20:17.079 real interaction, like you know, on a social and she was like I 233 00:20:17.240 --> 00:20:25.640 came back home. was like, baby, where have you been? I 234 00:20:25.759 --> 00:20:27.880 would like all, but what it just what you saying that it just brought 235 00:20:29.079 --> 00:20:34.039 that different aspect home to me. I still look at what entrepreneurs are doing, 236 00:20:34.400 --> 00:20:38.839 look at how we were and have been able to pivot, to create 237 00:20:41.079 --> 00:20:45.960 new forms, take on new ventures and learn from it. So a couple 238 00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:49.319 of things I want to share really quickly. What you guys from my notes 239 00:20:49.559 --> 00:20:57.400 is that I don't care if it's a nurture versus nature approach. What it 240 00:20:57.559 --> 00:21:03.039 is is that both of both aspects have strength and strengths in which we need 241 00:21:03.160 --> 00:21:08.559 to learn from. So what I learned is that from the nurture aspect you 242 00:21:08.680 --> 00:21:14.640 learned to apply yourselves on conditionally. That goes back to what we spoke about 243 00:21:14.839 --> 00:21:19.039 endurance, and you need a strong mindset in order to do that. So 244 00:21:19.480 --> 00:21:26.039 what nurturers tend to do is that they find mentorship, the network and they 245 00:21:26.200 --> 00:21:30.640 take advice. Right. So, for me, what I've done, what 246 00:21:30.720 --> 00:21:34.359 I found out I did, is the mentorship. I've acknowledge that we do 247 00:21:34.519 --> 00:21:40.759 need mentors and started to acknologe with my past. Who could have played mentorship 248 00:21:40.920 --> 00:21:47.839 roles your network. That she lana. She expanded my network by introducing me 249 00:21:47.960 --> 00:21:51.880 to you, Chris, and I'm really hit it off and we started to 250 00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:56.319 grow in this aspect. We started all right, dare, didn't last three 251 00:21:56.440 --> 00:22:00.160 months. If that like. These conversations were like this. It just hit 252 00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:03.880 and go, hit and go, hit and go right. That was a 253 00:22:03.960 --> 00:22:08.160 network and advice. When I started I said I trust you, Chris, 254 00:22:08.720 --> 00:22:11.880 and I really mean it. I trust she lana to and it's because, 255 00:22:12.039 --> 00:22:17.480 even though I'm working, and I do work within this field, I trust 256 00:22:17.559 --> 00:22:22.039 you enough to, I don't say hold your end, but I trust you 257 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:26.559 to guide me. So on that way, when I say certain things wrong 258 00:22:26.640 --> 00:22:30.240 and I do things that aren't completely correct, you like, I'll just look 259 00:22:30.519 --> 00:22:32.799 you messed up on that open. We're definitely going to do it. I 260 00:22:32.880 --> 00:22:36.119 know it's a twenty time. You're getting tired, she lana, hit that 261 00:22:36.240 --> 00:22:38.200 coffee pot. We're going to get this going one more time. And and 262 00:22:38.440 --> 00:22:42.279 that's what it is. So for me, I don't know if I'm a 263 00:22:42.400 --> 00:22:47.440 nature versus nurture but that's what I took from the nurture aspect. Now for 264 00:22:47.559 --> 00:22:52.039 the nature aspect, what it is that we have amazing traits, right. 265 00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:59.799 So in the nature it's like being burnt born with certain personalities and aptitudes. 266 00:23:00.240 --> 00:23:03.240 Right. I am a talk. I've been talking for about twenty minutes. 267 00:23:03.440 --> 00:23:07.440 To tell me about aunts. I'll talk to you about ants. I'll do 268 00:23:07.559 --> 00:23:11.160 whatever it is. Shelan is amazing at writing. Now I'm always going to 269 00:23:11.240 --> 00:23:14.079 tease her about it. Tell Shalanna you want, like, I only need 270 00:23:14.200 --> 00:23:18.640 two sentences for this. You got to a two thousand word essay talking about 271 00:23:18.880 --> 00:23:25.319 how the at leg is proportionately correct. Just a little different things right, 272 00:23:26.599 --> 00:23:34.519 you know all. And it goes back to again series one, where we 273 00:23:34.680 --> 00:23:41.720 spoke about applying, like we when you are born with certain talents. We 274 00:23:41.920 --> 00:23:48.480 just need to learn when to apply and not the when, Chris, and 275 00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:52.640 not just why. I like. So we need the right time. We 276 00:23:52.759 --> 00:23:56.119 need to learn how to apply it and learn when to apply. So we 277 00:23:56.279 --> 00:24:03.440 had the skills before, and now how and how? So we had the 278 00:24:03.519 --> 00:24:06.519 skills before we thought about it. This is what we were passionate about. 279 00:24:07.640 --> 00:24:11.920 And then the pandemic hit and then we learn, you know what, this 280 00:24:11.240 --> 00:24:15.680 is the right time to do a podcasts. Then you know, you've been 281 00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:18.400 doing everything else, this is the right time. So what are you going 282 00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:21.480 to take? What are the skills that I'm going to bring to the table? 283 00:24:21.640 --> 00:24:22.559 I'm going to talk of we're going to get do it. I'm argue 284 00:24:22.559 --> 00:24:29.960 with CHLANNA. I'm a blessed crop from wait, another leg, and that's 285 00:24:30.039 --> 00:24:36.519 your sick but and when you apply it in the right space, this podcast 286 00:24:36.720 --> 00:24:41.279 the right space, it builds in, it creates an IT breeds success and 287 00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:45.559 part of it is also because this is what it is that we're passionate about. 288 00:24:45.039 --> 00:24:48.839 So I'm not going to allow question to hit us with a nugget. 289 00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:52.799 I'm a hit you another. My mom always told me a man is known 290 00:24:52.279 --> 00:24:56.680 by the company he keeps, and I thought it was cool. Like, 291 00:24:56.799 --> 00:25:00.000 you know, Mama, you always say that whatever. Oh, you know, 292 00:25:00.839 --> 00:25:04.240 now it hits home. This is a company I key. These are 293 00:25:04.279 --> 00:25:07.200 my fellow entrepreneurs, these are the people I trust, these are the people 294 00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:11.200 that mentor me, these are the people I look to for advice and as 295 00:25:11.359 --> 00:25:15.240 other fellow entrepreneurs. What I want you to do is that we might have 296 00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:22.160 the mind set, sometimes we need a little motivation and we just need to 297 00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:26.400 not, I don't want to say find the right space. However, create 298 00:25:26.839 --> 00:25:30.400 the right space for whatever it is that we want to do. So on 299 00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:37.359 that MOE, on that note, this wraps up another conversation on the entrepreneurs 300 00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:41.480 strip. We want to thank you, thank our team, collaborators and especially 301 00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:47.799 you, are listeners, for making this trip possible. 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