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April 5, 2022

Entrepreneurial Burnout is REAL!

Entrepreneurial Burnout is REAL!

Breathe & Pace Yourself: Entrepreneurial Burnout is real! In this episode, the X.T.C. crew discusses the inevitable burnout that almost all entrepreneurs experience on their journey. We talk about the warning signs and how to identify the burnout, and, more importantly, how to solve it when it happens and get yourself back on track. Because at the end of the day, the ship (your business) can’t sail without its captain (You! – the entrepreneur) and caring for yourself is ultimately caring for your business. So, if you’re feeling burnt out, pop open that lounge chair on the beach and join us, as we learn to take care of our business’ best asset … OURSELVES!  

Transcript
WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.159 --> 00:00:10.080 Welcome to the entrepreneur trip podcast with text. I'm Slanda, I'm trusted and 2 00:00:10.160 --> 00:00:16.839 I'm Chris. It's an entrepreneur starting and rowing your business. You may have 3 00:00:16.920 --> 00:00:21.879 a destination, but the journey getting there, and it's right. We want 4 00:00:21.920 --> 00:00:27.120 to be a travel companions and inject adult of fixtc as we explore real life 5 00:00:27.120 --> 00:00:34.320 conversations about navigating the world's entrepreneurship in the US and the Caribbean. Take this 6 00:00:34.439 --> 00:00:43.280 trip with us. Hey, everybody, welcome to the entrepreneurs trip. We 7 00:00:43.320 --> 00:00:49.359 are excited to have this episode here because I think it's something that any entrepreneur 8 00:00:49.359 --> 00:00:56.159 who's been the game for honesty almost any given amount of time can understand that 9 00:00:56.359 --> 00:01:00.439 entrepreneurial burnout is a real thing and there are a number of different factors that 10 00:01:00.520 --> 00:01:06.400 play into it and a number of different perspectives and opinions that you can get 11 00:01:06.439 --> 00:01:10.280 around this subject. So I just want to kick us off real quick with 12 00:01:10.319 --> 00:01:15.120 a couple of entrepreneur quotes that will kind of start leading us to what some 13 00:01:15.159 --> 00:01:19.879 people think about this issue. So Grand Card Don was a selfmade millionaire who 14 00:01:19.879 --> 00:01:23.599 disclosed that he was working ninety five hours a week. He said, if 15 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:26.920 you ever want to be a millionaire, you need to stop working the nine 16 00:01:26.959 --> 00:01:32.040 hundred and twenty five and start doing ninety five. Gary Vyner Chuck of V 17 00:01:32.120 --> 00:01:36.400 Inter Media said that foundership put in at least eighteen hours a day on their 18 00:01:36.400 --> 00:01:42.680 first year to succeed, and the shark tanks and fuboo owner Damon John said, 19 00:01:42.680 --> 00:01:47.840 work your work, Bust Your Butt, get up every get up before 20 00:01:47.840 --> 00:01:51.959 everybody, go to sleep after everybody, and Bust Your Butt. That's it. 21 00:01:52.079 --> 00:01:59.040 So that is kind of a common mentality and thread and entrepreneurship that you 22 00:01:59.480 --> 00:02:02.879 feel that once you're in you have to go full speed ahead to ninety five. 23 00:02:04.519 --> 00:02:07.560 But that does come with a cost and it is only sustainable as humans 24 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:15.120 for so long. So before we get into this, when enters the how 25 00:02:15.159 --> 00:02:20.919 do identify entrepreneurial burnout and then what some of the kind of cures or solutions 26 00:02:20.919 --> 00:02:24.080 are to it? I wanted to open up to the both of you and 27 00:02:24.159 --> 00:02:30.319 see when you were starting your entrepreneurial journey, where were you at with this 28 00:02:30.479 --> 00:02:36.520 in terms of how much time you needed to put into your business to get 29 00:02:36.520 --> 00:02:40.599 going? Who wants to take it? Who wants to take it a nomination? 30 00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:46.919 Let's see, is head. I'm going tristed. You're on the on 31 00:02:46.039 --> 00:02:53.400 the hot scene. Who Gave you control of this? I feel your pain, 32 00:02:53.520 --> 00:03:02.719 but the feel so when you were speaking, quote from my mother came 33 00:03:02.759 --> 00:03:07.039 to mind, and the quote is I don't know where she got it from. 34 00:03:07.599 --> 00:03:13.120 It says the race is not for the swift, it's for who could 35 00:03:13.120 --> 00:03:21.520 adore it to the end. And I hated that. So homeboy, I 36 00:03:21.560 --> 00:03:23.400 said he clap. Ninety five was put in. Ninety five hours, I 37 00:03:23.479 --> 00:03:30.039 was saying, trying to do some simple math. If I had five a 38 00:03:30.120 --> 00:03:36.680 week, technically, how much time is five one to twenty five st I 39 00:03:36.800 --> 00:03:38.360 said, if I wanted twenty five, O five goes in a ninety five 40 00:03:38.439 --> 00:03:44.639 five times twenty is it's actually dred. So that mean it got to be 41 00:03:44.680 --> 00:03:47.879 like nineteen. Yeah, I mean he was talking about nineteen hours a day, 42 00:03:49.240 --> 00:03:54.639 right. The other guy said something like eight nine. Yep, all 43 00:03:54.719 --> 00:03:59.199 right. So I'm a little baffled, and I'm baffled because what I really 44 00:03:59.240 --> 00:04:02.479 want to know is that that's what it is. Those guys are probably saying. 45 00:04:02.560 --> 00:04:10.319 Then I want to know what it is. I remember when I started, 46 00:04:10.680 --> 00:04:14.800 I started with this crazy saying sleep is for the week. I remember 47 00:04:14.960 --> 00:04:19.759 saying that. I remember leaving events going to work, leaving events going to 48 00:04:19.839 --> 00:04:23.639 work, and they're like, Um, I don't even know where I read 49 00:04:23.680 --> 00:04:26.920 it. So, like you, as entrepreneur, you got time to find 50 00:04:27.000 --> 00:04:31.480 stupid things, stupid things you spent so much is working that you find stupid 51 00:04:31.519 --> 00:04:34.800 things that validate what it is that you do. I read an article that 52 00:04:34.839 --> 00:04:40.439 said something like the body only needs. Now hear me out. It said 53 00:04:40.600 --> 00:04:45.279 needs, not, want not. What would be essential? Not to operate 54 00:04:45.319 --> 00:04:51.639 at your most optimum? It said only three hours of sleep, and somewhere 55 00:04:51.680 --> 00:04:56.399 in between there that became, I want to say, what I felt was 56 00:04:56.480 --> 00:04:59.839 like that, Manto. That's how it is really be. I just ran 57 00:04:59.959 --> 00:05:02.920 from different events. When I'm told you, like Salanda, it'd be crazy. 58 00:05:03.000 --> 00:05:08.439 We did a sunrise shoot. So Imagine Sunrise. We're up at three 59 00:05:08.480 --> 00:05:12.839 o'clock in the morning to go shoot the sunrise's now. People like three, 60 00:05:12.920 --> 00:05:15.240 but the sun doesn't rise until this time. You got to get equipment, 61 00:05:15.240 --> 00:05:17.519 you got to compare, you got to be set up before the sun is 62 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:19.680 ready to come up. You got to make sure the sun is coming up 63 00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:26.040 with you want it to. Apparently I didn't have the APP that tells me 64 00:05:26.040 --> 00:05:29.720 where the sun comes so is that you're just shooting the vast area at all? 65 00:05:29.720 --> 00:05:33.639 Okay, great, you know. And then when you're done with that, 66 00:05:33.680 --> 00:05:38.399 you go through your eight hour day. So most days, even now 67 00:05:38.399 --> 00:05:43.519 that I'm working, I do eight hours before I get to my eight hours, 68 00:05:43.560 --> 00:05:46.720 and then there's still like a small part of life after that. So 69 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:48.879 Three Eight, Soor what that? I think that's about your that's your twenty 70 00:05:48.879 --> 00:05:51.240 four right there. So you can't do three eight hour days. So then, 71 00:05:51.279 --> 00:05:55.680 I mean that part got to be like maybe another three. So you 72 00:05:55.680 --> 00:05:59.120 do eight, eight, three. That brings us to nineteen and I got 73 00:05:59.240 --> 00:06:03.000 our the preface, sleep and then. But that's just it, and that's 74 00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:06.480 what you do as an entrepreneur, is that you put in those hours in 75 00:06:06.560 --> 00:06:11.160 the beginning, because what we look at is our glory days at day. 76 00:06:11.240 --> 00:06:14.000 Oh, I'm going to work hard now, because it's supposed to be easier 77 00:06:14.040 --> 00:06:16.519 in the end. So you're supposed to do this or you're supposed to do 78 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:19.519 that. You know, they're just giving us like a whole out of old 79 00:06:19.959 --> 00:06:24.720 Oh oh, I can't believe this is what it is that we got to 80 00:06:24.759 --> 00:06:27.560 do, and this is what I feel the scares a lot of entrepreneurs. 81 00:06:27.560 --> 00:06:33.079 Well, guess what, Pace Yourself. Pace yourself. We spoke about running. 82 00:06:33.160 --> 00:06:36.680 That five came the beginning. Well, you can't run a five kn 83 00:06:36.800 --> 00:06:43.759 to hours and sleep. You can't function the way that we would love to 84 00:06:43.800 --> 00:06:48.480 call normal if we're not getting enough for us. And that's what the burnout 85 00:06:48.639 --> 00:06:55.160 is. We talked about stumbling on pebbles. Those pebbles slow you up someone 86 00:06:55.199 --> 00:06:59.439 that way you don't have to encounter the burnout. In that sense, it 87 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:01.920 diverts your attention to something else for a small period of time for you to 88 00:07:02.040 --> 00:07:06.800 solve. You can have feel like you accomplish something because you're working towards that 89 00:07:06.879 --> 00:07:10.959 great a picture. That's going to be the next podcast also. I just 90 00:07:11.040 --> 00:07:15.120 want to pretext that, but you know, that's that's where it's going to 91 00:07:15.120 --> 00:07:18.720 go. And and it hurts and it burns. It really burns when you 92 00:07:18.759 --> 00:07:23.079 got burner. And that's what we talked about. We just talked about keep 93 00:07:23.120 --> 00:07:25.360 punching these hours. You got to do this, you get got to do 94 00:07:25.399 --> 00:07:29.720 that. And I'll bet my bottom dollar that they'll everybody that said that in 95 00:07:29.800 --> 00:07:34.839 the beginning. That's not their mantra to the end, because it goes to 96 00:07:34.959 --> 00:07:40.800 stuff like you know, we work smarter, not harder. You see what 97 00:07:40.839 --> 00:07:44.120 I'm saying? Because when you first start, when I away got to work, 98 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:46.600 we got to do this. Oh it's about working hard, it's about 99 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:51.560 your rewards, it's about and then experience teaches you work smarter, not harder. 100 00:07:53.199 --> 00:08:01.240 Before weren't anymore. I'm gonna let you go basis. Well, thank 101 00:08:01.319 --> 00:08:07.319 you. Thank you. It's interesting because as you were talking, I was 102 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:13.439 thinking of a couple of things. One of them is yet work harder, 103 00:08:13.879 --> 00:08:20.879 not work smarter, not harder. But I think as entrepreneurs, because we 104 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:28.680 want to be able to see in the physical form what we see in our 105 00:08:28.759 --> 00:08:35.559 brain, we buy into this social construct of doing, doing, doing, 106 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:41.240 doing, doing, working hard, you know, putting in the hours, 107 00:08:41.240 --> 00:08:46.519 and we almost wear you know, like being busy and working and being productive 108 00:08:46.559 --> 00:08:52.559 as if it's a badge of honor. Right. The challenge with glorifying the 109 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:56.600 doing and not taking time to be instead, it does lead to that entrepreneurial 110 00:08:56.639 --> 00:09:01.679 burnout, and I could say that I personal experience. So I'm going to 111 00:09:01.720 --> 00:09:05.600 just be real and right here on this podcast. These two gentlemen know, 112 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:09.799 at the beginning of the year I pulled out the two thousand and twenty two 113 00:09:09.919 --> 00:09:16.960 integrated road map for Salanza, and it's just right. Member, guys, 114 00:09:18.279 --> 00:09:20.000 I do, I do. That's why I said pause. Let's put this 115 00:09:20.039 --> 00:09:24.600 in the context. I think way Earli in the podcast, we mentioned that 116 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:30.840 because she, Lana, had like blow my mind. Yep, I can 117 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:33.240 for maybe about three weeks, like you know, I probably got this going 118 00:09:33.320 --> 00:09:37.720 on in three weeks and then, like maybe, somebody requested a wedding. 119 00:09:37.799 --> 00:09:41.600 I gotta aunt a great on that's making birthday in July, and that's it. 120 00:09:41.639 --> 00:09:46.840 Salanda does not do that. She does not do that. She works 121 00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:52.159 hard. I admire that about her. Shelana gave us a road map so 122 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:56.600 on. It would be like on April nineteen, at four o'clock, I'm 123 00:09:56.639 --> 00:10:01.279 gonna have this meeting with Chris. I'm like them, well, how you 124 00:10:01.320 --> 00:10:05.159 know you're meeting with Chris? But guess what, by six o'clock I'm gonna 125 00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:09.000 be me what Tristan, and then on Thursday we're going to have this group 126 00:10:09.039 --> 00:10:15.679 meeting about this. And that's just that. That one two days I'm telling 127 00:10:15.679 --> 00:10:18.840 you about, and it's two days that she got planned out, and I 128 00:10:18.039 --> 00:10:26.399 with two days every day that's already in Shalana's life, like for the year, 129 00:10:26.559 --> 00:10:31.480 like the collection. No days, just colors, ex poler. I'm 130 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:37.519 gonna let you go ahead, slong water context. That's a planner and me. 131 00:10:37.720 --> 00:10:39.720 So yes, it did. Wasn't necessarily by day, I didn't get 132 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:43.159 that granular, but it was definitely by month, right. Yep, it 133 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:48.720 was from January to December. It was all of the projects that I was 134 00:10:48.759 --> 00:10:52.200 aware of at the beginning of the year, like we were talking about doing 135 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:56.559 this podcast. Tristan and I were working on a passion project. You know, 136 00:10:56.679 --> 00:10:58.799 Chris and I work with another company out of Orlando, so we have 137 00:10:58.960 --> 00:11:03.759 that to do. I'm working on my PhD, so I have a plan 138 00:11:03.799 --> 00:11:07.679 to be done by this summer, like I had everything that was going on 139 00:11:07.720 --> 00:11:13.039 in my life that I was aware of flend out and how we started the 140 00:11:13.039 --> 00:11:18.000 beginning of the year, it was like we were definitely in a race and 141 00:11:18.120 --> 00:11:24.039 we were doing things every day, right, but my family was like, 142 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:26.639 you know, Sha, you can't work seven days a week and I was 143 00:11:26.679 --> 00:11:30.840 like no, but we got this passion project on Sundays and it's so cool. 144 00:11:30.840 --> 00:11:33.360 We're having so much fun. Were captured. So it's not really work 145 00:11:33.440 --> 00:11:37.120 right. It's like something I am loving doing, it something I'm passionate about. 146 00:11:37.159 --> 00:11:41.879 I'm working with people that are amazing, so that's like my fun stuff, 147 00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:46.679 and they're like yeah, okay, right, and so we I kept 148 00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:50.039 doing it and I remember one Sunday Triston and I were down in Frejec said 149 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:54.559 and I was like, okay, Tristen, I can't help you pack up 150 00:11:54.600 --> 00:11:56.120 this stuff. Do you need anything else for me, because I gotta go 151 00:11:56.240 --> 00:12:01.559 home and write my dissertation? And he's like no, Mama, I got 152 00:12:01.639 --> 00:12:05.200 this, and he looks at me. He goes, Chalanda, you really 153 00:12:05.240 --> 00:12:09.320 need to slow down, because I'm really concerned that you're doing too much. 154 00:12:09.360 --> 00:12:11.639 And I was like, nomattres Don, I good, I good, we 155 00:12:13.039 --> 00:12:16.159 you know, we making progress, things looking good. I'm so excited. 156 00:12:16.240 --> 00:12:20.240 This is like gonna Happen Right. Well, I end ended up taking a 157 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:28.840 five day entrepreneurial training on top of everything else that was going on right. 158 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:35.799 So basically this training blocked out fivefold days from zero to six PM, Monday, 159 00:12:35.879 --> 00:12:39.879 Wednesday, Friday for two weeks. So all the things that I was 160 00:12:39.879 --> 00:12:45.960 planning and doing still needed to get done even though I was doing this training. 161 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:48.480 So people would say, well then don't do the training right, and 162 00:12:48.519 --> 00:12:52.200 I was that's a logical choice. But as an entrepreneur, in order for 163 00:12:52.240 --> 00:12:56.000 your business to grow, you also need to grow. You also need to 164 00:12:56.080 --> 00:13:00.840 learn business practices, you need to network with other people, so you will 165 00:13:00.879 --> 00:13:03.360 have to be a continuous learner. So I saw the value of being in 166 00:13:03.399 --> 00:13:07.600 this five day training, even though it felt like it was going to push 167 00:13:07.679 --> 00:13:13.799 me back. So we get to graduation the Thursday and I get on the 168 00:13:13.799 --> 00:13:18.759 phone with Tristan in the morning because he's like I come into the the graduation 169 00:13:18.480 --> 00:13:24.480 and I'm just in tears, bowling righteous. I was just a hot normally 170 00:13:24.840 --> 00:13:30.039 you sit. No, don't, order going to skip that. So she 171 00:13:30.039 --> 00:13:33.320 she's dumped into the juice. She's jump into the juice. She's not even 172 00:13:33.360 --> 00:13:39.120 mixing it good. So this is what happens. So the morning of all, 173 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:41.519 I'm give it to him. I'M gonna give it to him. Chris, 174 00:13:41.559 --> 00:13:45.159 I think you might have been there for part of it. We get 175 00:13:45.240 --> 00:13:46.919 there, it's a morning of and I'm like dam I got to work. 176 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:52.440 I'm working a show. And then I was like hey, mom, I 177 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:56.039 hate to bother you, but are the link. I don't even know where 178 00:13:56.080 --> 00:14:03.279 I might have missed placed a link. I'm not seeing the link and we 179 00:14:03.320 --> 00:14:07.759 have such a relationship in our texture, you feel the person before they response. 180 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:16.360 I felt this. Here's the link. What happened? I think, 181 00:14:16.440 --> 00:14:18.679 Chris, you might have asked for the link also. We were like know. 182 00:14:18.879 --> 00:14:22.000 Chris was like, you know, I've been in here, that I 183 00:14:22.120 --> 00:14:26.240 missed it, and I was like, Oh shit, we miss there's no 184 00:14:26.279 --> 00:14:31.440 way, because I told I was going to be. Whatever happened was a 185 00:14:31.440 --> 00:14:33.320 mix up put the time. We're not going to talk about who did what. 186 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:39.159 A root didn't. It was a mixup with the time. And here 187 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:41.440 it is where you've prepared. Now, remember I told you about her colors 188 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:46.320 for every day the week that she doesn't want to be of the year. 189 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:50.960 Ready color coded the whole nine. I did. I never told you I 190 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:52.039 thought it was a bad idea. I was at, Oh wait, that's 191 00:14:52.080 --> 00:14:56.360 the I thought it was cool for the networking. When I was confused about 192 00:14:56.480 --> 00:15:01.480 was the time, because she ready had these weeks planned out, and we're 193 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:09.120 not talking about smallest here, dear planned out, like we got things that 194 00:15:09.159 --> 00:15:13.840 we're doing. Chris, tell me that thing that in pause. Tell me. 195 00:15:13.159 --> 00:15:16.960 I'm sorry, I live in the island. I'm not gonna provided. 196 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:20.440 For sure. We got kids, everything. So now everything's planned out and 197 00:15:20.600 --> 00:15:24.879 and I was like your mom, are you sure? She's like yeah, 198 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:30.000 I got this, and I said the text. I felt the breath and 199 00:15:30.120 --> 00:15:33.799 she sent me the link and she was like no, it didn't start, 200 00:15:33.840 --> 00:15:37.960 so I'll call. I'll call there and then I'm let you continue with this 201 00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:43.879 one. So great, she's take it forever. So I cauled her. 202 00:15:48.919 --> 00:15:54.759 You know who, weeks and I don't like no, Mama, Mama, 203 00:15:54.840 --> 00:16:03.279 no, no, it's not like that. We gotta get Christs do that 204 00:16:03.320 --> 00:16:08.440 again as new. No, Mama, now, no, and not doing 205 00:16:08.480 --> 00:16:12.320 this just way, just chill. And she's like no, there's not going 206 00:16:12.440 --> 00:16:15.279 this way. They said it was going to be at this time. We're 207 00:16:15.279 --> 00:16:22.080 gonna do this. I know. Oh my look, it's coming up. 208 00:16:22.399 --> 00:16:26.720 We're gonna be here. But no, the burnout. burnout is like a 209 00:16:26.960 --> 00:16:32.559 real, real thing, like it was. It was just crazy. This 210 00:16:32.759 --> 00:16:38.600 happens before we're actually in their graduation. This is before graduation, so we're 211 00:16:38.600 --> 00:16:44.879 not even amyot right. We hatch a fresh breadth of ear. When the 212 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:48.720 shit comes up, like the link POPs up. It says whatever the Shit 213 00:16:48.919 --> 00:16:52.559 is about graduation. I'm like, okay, I'Ma hit you back. Go 214 00:16:52.600 --> 00:16:56.480 ahead, blah, blah, blah, go go. So in here and 215 00:16:56.519 --> 00:16:59.879 I'm watching and now, Chris, if you ever go back and watch a 216 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:03.759 video, there's like two points where she looks so concentrate. I was like, 217 00:17:03.840 --> 00:17:06.519 you know, like you had that proud that that proud parrot moment. 218 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:11.359 Look about baby girl, and then you can see this, Chris, she's 219 00:17:11.400 --> 00:17:18.200 here. She's like no, it's because, you know, after I had 220 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:22.279 my little mini meltdown, you know, like I'm not, I'm not like 221 00:17:22.319 --> 00:17:26.759 any emotional person. I usually can keep my shit together pretty well until I 222 00:17:26.799 --> 00:17:32.279 go behind closed doors. But it was just it's like everything just came crashing 223 00:17:32.319 --> 00:17:37.640 down that morning and not the graduation not happening was just one. It was 224 00:17:37.680 --> 00:17:40.880 like that pebble, you know, that was in my shoe. It was 225 00:17:40.920 --> 00:17:44.839 like that last straw on the camel's back that Justus. I watched it that 226 00:17:44.920 --> 00:17:48.279 morning and when you called, I was just like I can't with this shit. 227 00:17:48.359 --> 00:17:51.759 I got so much stuff to do. But what was happening is I 228 00:17:51.799 --> 00:17:55.160 was doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, and I wasn't taking 229 00:17:55.200 --> 00:18:00.200 that time for self. CARE. So you know, it took every single 230 00:18:00.279 --> 00:18:03.960 and entrepreneurs get this. You know, you might be driving to a meeting, 231 00:18:04.119 --> 00:18:07.799 you might be crying in your car, you might be saying I can't 232 00:18:07.880 --> 00:18:11.759 do this anymore, but you got this meeting that you got to show up 233 00:18:11.839 --> 00:18:15.200 and act like everything is good. So in the graduation I'm like yeah, 234 00:18:15.359 --> 00:18:18.240 great, I'm like great, like your face, keep your face, because 235 00:18:18.279 --> 00:18:21.799 you know I can have a resting bitch face right. So I'm like keep 236 00:18:21.839 --> 00:18:26.839 your face where they don't know. But you know, so graduation ends interest 237 00:18:26.920 --> 00:18:37.160 and calls me back, but it's also shows that why you need that network, 238 00:18:37.200 --> 00:18:41.480 why you need that Support System as an entrepreneur and as an entrepreneur, 239 00:18:41.480 --> 00:18:45.359 when those people that you know really care, I love you, love you 240 00:18:47.079 --> 00:18:51.400 say listen, maybe you need to pause, maybe you need to rethink your 241 00:18:51.440 --> 00:18:56.000 schedule. Those are just little messages that they're seeing something that you may not 242 00:18:56.039 --> 00:19:02.400 necessarily be seeing. And so after that whole experience, I'm working with a 243 00:19:02.480 --> 00:19:07.480 client right now and the client wants to book stuff for six days a week. 244 00:19:07.519 --> 00:19:11.799 But it's a high pressure industry. They're in a high pressure job, 245 00:19:11.880 --> 00:19:14.680 they're in the healthcare. It's amount of life and stuff. I was like, 246 00:19:14.720 --> 00:19:18.319 how much stress are you going to be under every single day? I 247 00:19:18.319 --> 00:19:22.000 said you need to schedule. You have the office is closed on a Sunday, 248 00:19:22.039 --> 00:19:26.319 but you need to schedule that selfcare day that day to just go it 249 00:19:26.440 --> 00:19:32.720 on on a beach with a Bush, walk out and to nothing into nothing 250 00:19:32.839 --> 00:19:34.960 right, because if you don't take the time to be if you don't take 251 00:19:36.000 --> 00:19:41.200 that time to fill back your reserves, you're not going to have anything to 252 00:19:41.240 --> 00:19:45.599 give, because the burnout is real. Yeah, a lot of entrepreneurs don't 253 00:19:45.640 --> 00:19:48.039 talk about that. You know, we put on this face like everything is 254 00:19:48.079 --> 00:19:52.400 cool when in fact, you know we struggling. Yep, because we trying 255 00:19:52.440 --> 00:19:56.720 to do too much. I'll actually jump in real, real quick here. 256 00:19:56.799 --> 00:20:03.079 So becaause it's kind of ties in with a couple of the signs of entrepreneurial 257 00:20:03.119 --> 00:20:07.839 burnout. So one is, and these are from a couple different sources, 258 00:20:07.880 --> 00:20:12.319 but you dread going to work consistently, this one we just talked about. 259 00:20:12.440 --> 00:20:19.319 So your mood and personality have changed. According to others, you're experiencing physical 260 00:20:19.400 --> 00:20:25.079 symptoms, always tired. Customers become your enemy, where you get annoyed when 261 00:20:25.119 --> 00:20:30.640 they call you to do another thing. And then this one kind of stuck 262 00:20:30.680 --> 00:20:33.640 with me when I read this. Feels like you're serving a perpetual prison sentence 263 00:20:33.640 --> 00:20:41.039 with no parole, and then everyday behavior becomes an addiction, then a vice. 264 00:20:41.119 --> 00:20:45.720 Shiny new opportunities catch your eye, so you kind of are like, 265 00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:48.240 maybe I could do something different because this this hurts right now, or this 266 00:20:48.359 --> 00:20:52.720 this is too stressful. Salanda, this one's going to hurt you. Linkedin 267 00:20:52.799 --> 00:21:04.640 becomes the bane of your existence. I but, but when you have entrepreneural 268 00:21:04.680 --> 00:21:07.640 burnout, and this is kind of what this this article was alluding to, 269 00:21:07.839 --> 00:21:14.559 is you start getting annoyed by seeing other people talking about success or just even 270 00:21:14.599 --> 00:21:17.640 like industry stuff, and you're like, Oh, like just you get annoyed 271 00:21:17.680 --> 00:21:22.119 by by hearing about your own work. But then we then we were transitioning 272 00:21:22.160 --> 00:21:26.039 here into you know, some of the ways to kind of cure that or 273 00:21:26.079 --> 00:21:32.680 ways who help avoid it. And there is no prescription or set solution for 274 00:21:32.759 --> 00:21:36.400 anybody. But but, Salanda, to your point, you know, take 275 00:21:36.400 --> 00:21:38.400 a vacation, and a real vacation, not just I'm going to go to 276 00:21:38.400 --> 00:21:41.039 the beach, but I'm going to be on my phone the whole time doing 277 00:21:41.079 --> 00:21:45.480 business. Yeah, that's nice. Right, oh, that's how I do. 278 00:21:45.559 --> 00:21:48.279 This is too, but that's not a occasion, but that's not of 279 00:21:48.319 --> 00:21:55.000 occasion. That's not a that that's a beach day, but not a real 280 00:21:55.079 --> 00:22:03.640 beach day. Exactly, okay. And then, yeah, basically just, 281 00:22:03.920 --> 00:22:06.880 you know, starting to be prepared for whatever comes your way. So realizing 282 00:22:06.920 --> 00:22:14.119 that your color coded plan may have different colors, come in in and out. 283 00:22:14.880 --> 00:22:18.640 Manager time in order to physically recharge, which, obviously, compared to 284 00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:25.920 the ninety five hours a week you know, is a detraction from that. 285 00:22:26.160 --> 00:22:30.160 Stay active, monitor your health, connect with your loved ones and celebrate holidays 286 00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:36.319 and milestones. So one thing I kind of want to go back to from 287 00:22:36.359 --> 00:22:44.200 the conversation earlier is, I guess at the beginning, and all those quotes 288 00:22:44.200 --> 00:22:48.480 that I'd read at the beginning were kind of when you're starting Your Business, 289 00:22:48.519 --> 00:22:53.680 we talked about working smarter, not harder. But in their defense of those 290 00:22:53.720 --> 00:23:00.079 entrepreneurs in the first year of business there's a kind of like a proverb of 291 00:23:00.119 --> 00:23:06.039 a grandson goes and asks his grandmother. He says like Hey, Grham I, 292 00:23:04.680 --> 00:23:07.119 I I keep making mistakes. I want to learn to not make any 293 00:23:07.160 --> 00:23:11.400 more mistakes. How do I do that and she said, Oh, simple, 294 00:23:11.480 --> 00:23:15.240 you have to gain wisdom and he's like awesome. Like so, how 295 00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:17.279 do I do that? How do I gain wisdom? And she said by 296 00:23:17.279 --> 00:23:23.599 making mistakes. So so the to to become more efficient as an entrepreneur, 297 00:23:23.640 --> 00:23:27.240 because when we first start out where we're scrambling to pull all the pieces together, 298 00:23:27.319 --> 00:23:33.160 wearing all the hats, it's not until we start getting into the trenches 299 00:23:33.200 --> 00:23:36.200 with that that we start saying, Hey, this is working, this isn't 300 00:23:36.200 --> 00:23:38.920 working, this would be better, this would make things more efficient, and 301 00:23:38.960 --> 00:23:45.920 then we're able to start narrowing down our time spent. But a lot entrepreneurs 302 00:23:45.960 --> 00:23:49.319 will, to Tristan's point, will end up filling that gap of time with 303 00:23:49.359 --> 00:23:53.640 other nonsensical things to make it look like they're working and fulfilling that entrepreneurial journey 304 00:23:53.640 --> 00:24:00.519 instead of actually working on the necessary things. So that kind of me too. 305 00:24:00.480 --> 00:24:06.400 Just a question. I want to hear about your responses from in Your 306 00:24:06.440 --> 00:24:10.680 Business and each of your respected business what would you say your biggest asset, 307 00:24:10.759 --> 00:24:19.720 is your most valuable asset in your business? Time? Okay, got time. 308 00:24:21.079 --> 00:24:25.400 And the reason I say time is because when you think of a resource, 309 00:24:25.440 --> 00:24:27.880 when you think of say, a laptop, you could always replace a 310 00:24:27.960 --> 00:24:33.400 laptop, right. If you lose money, you could always make more money. 311 00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:37.960 But when it comes to time, that's the only resource that you can't, 312 00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:41.200 you know, store up the minutes like a cell phone plan to roll 313 00:24:41.240 --> 00:24:44.279 over to the next month. is either you use it or you lose it, 314 00:24:44.319 --> 00:24:51.720 and I think because time is really that precious, is why a lot 315 00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:55.839 of these entrepreneurs have the qos that they have. Like you need to maximize 316 00:24:55.880 --> 00:24:59.480 the limited time that you have to be able to grow your business and a 317 00:24:59.480 --> 00:25:04.000 while, I do understand that. What I found after my experience is I'm 318 00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:11.799 functioning really impull polarities, and what I mean by that is I understand that, 319 00:25:12.119 --> 00:25:15.799 you know, there may be a proposal that's do or there may be 320 00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:19.119 a project that I'm working on in the short term, which what might require 321 00:25:19.160 --> 00:25:25.720 me to push those hours right, but on a more consistent basis. What 322 00:25:25.799 --> 00:25:30.039 I need to do is carve out time to be HMM, to be to 323 00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:36.559 breathe, to pace myself, to have that self care, to recharge my 324 00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:41.839 energy, and that takes time to but that time is no less precious that 325 00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:45.440 the time that I'm spending doing, you know, and it's really understanding the 326 00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:51.279 time you spend doing is not as important as the time you spent being because, 327 00:25:51.319 --> 00:25:55.720 when you think about it, the time you spend being is tied your 328 00:25:55.759 --> 00:26:00.400 health, Yep, and that's another resource. You know, if you're not 329 00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:03.920 healthy, you can do nothing else. You don't have the energy, you're 330 00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:08.920 physically not capable if you're not healthy. So it makes that time of being 331 00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:15.279 and being healthy, mentally, physically, emotionally psychologically, even more valuable than 332 00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:18.279 the time that you're spending being. But you have to find a balance in 333 00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:22.400 that polarity that works for you as the Individual Entrepreneur, because you know, 334 00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:27.440 some people can function on three hours sleep, me one at him. Okay, 335 00:26:27.559 --> 00:26:32.599 I need me. was just in my eight hours, you know, 336 00:26:32.720 --> 00:26:36.640 and sometimes, depending on what's going on, I might need a Siesta in 337 00:26:36.720 --> 00:26:40.920 the middle of the day, and I'm learning not to beat myself. YEA 338 00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:47.680 lunch. I got up at five and I worked until twelve and I had 339 00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:52.119 lunch and I feel like taking a nap, so I'm going to take my 340 00:26:52.240 --> 00:26:56.200 nap and then I'll resume when I get up. Trusty took me falling on 341 00:26:56.240 --> 00:27:03.279 my ass and crying, blobbering idiots, and think I trust in. You 342 00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:07.039 were there, you know, to to help me through that, because the 343 00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:15.079 burner Israel session for Truancision, your biggest asset Um when you first ask that 344 00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:18.559 question, and I'm happy Shalana jumped at it to make sure I say something 345 00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:23.480 sensible. Got Be my camera. Gotta be the camera. No, it 346 00:27:23.599 --> 00:27:30.000 might be the laptop, maybe some lights, but all in know, I 347 00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:38.119 think I bought to I well my skills, all my skills and perspective, 348 00:27:38.279 --> 00:27:48.160 and it goes to I'm that I'm the grandson in your parable because I've learned 349 00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:51.440 from looking at others. I've learned a lot from looking at others in that 350 00:27:51.480 --> 00:27:55.880 way. I don't try, and I mean that's I don't, because sometimes 351 00:27:55.880 --> 00:28:00.519 they manifest themselves in different ways and until you hit that speed bop you can't 352 00:28:00.599 --> 00:28:04.200 recognize it. So I try not to make the mistake I've seen others made 353 00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:11.319 and I just embrace the mistakes that I make. So I just look at 354 00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:17.839 it a little differently. Shalana could tell you like my perspective, like when 355 00:28:17.839 --> 00:28:19.920 I come in and say, oh, but you know, I definitely didn't 356 00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:25.920 think about that way, or let's do this that way. Let's talk about 357 00:28:26.039 --> 00:28:29.440 the break down that I had recently, the meltdown, the burnout that I 358 00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:33.039 was facing, where I'm miss meetings, everything that I was doing wasn't coming 359 00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:37.240 together as a collective, and during that point in time I looked at the 360 00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:42.839 group and I was like, Hey, guys, it's the three of us, 361 00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:47.039 we came together, we form this entity. But if it's for the 362 00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:51.240 better part, betterment of the entity, that you guys continue to do what 363 00:28:51.279 --> 00:28:55.279 it is that we started out doing, I have no problems meeting, assisting 364 00:28:55.359 --> 00:28:57.799 or whatever it is, but if I'm holding us back, this goes to, 365 00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:02.359 I think, part of our commitment, conversation and stuff like that, 366 00:29:02.680 --> 00:29:07.160 then if I'm holding us back, then by no means I understand if we 367 00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:11.839 were to move forward without and that's what I think my greatest asset is. 368 00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:15.200 I might not say things, I don't want to say correctly, they might 369 00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:19.799 not come off the right way, but it's just that ability to ignize that 370 00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:25.359 the betterment of the group, the betterment of the vision, that vision, 371 00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:32.759 that time teaches you, experience teaches you, and Salona hit it that on. 372 00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:38.640 Is that preparation and making time for yourself, because when we don't make 373 00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:44.319 time for ourselves, we slowly start to lose ourselves and we can't make time 374 00:29:44.440 --> 00:29:48.039 for anybody else. Now I don't have the time to hit these that buys 375 00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:53.359 now. I'm not doing this. Now. Life encountered whatever it is that 376 00:29:53.359 --> 00:29:59.519 that situation was, and now I can't. I don't know how to handle 377 00:29:59.559 --> 00:30:04.400 it because is I'm burned out. So what seemed like a logical answer you 378 00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:11.799 can't hit logically because you're in a in like a survival mode. All we 379 00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:15.440 needed this, all we had dispersperfected, if all this was supposed to be 380 00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:19.480 this way, and it's not shifting, it's not coming together. So instead 381 00:30:19.480 --> 00:30:25.240 of me saying hey, Slana, give me two days and I'm gonna get 382 00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:27.640 back to you. Now, I'm still going to take on Salana stuff, 383 00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:30.599 I'm like, Chris, I got you with that. You said you wanted 384 00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:36.000 this done, and then what happens is that, before we know it, 385 00:30:36.119 --> 00:30:42.240 you're unable to accomplish anything because you were so busy doing everything. And that's 386 00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:48.400 why I said with those parables about us working hard and crunching those hours. 387 00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:49.559 Like, now that we're talking about it, it just hit me. I 388 00:30:49.680 --> 00:30:55.640 was like, maybe this is why businesses fail within their first five because we're 389 00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:59.200 so caught up on the doing, doing, doing, you're not making time 390 00:30:59.240 --> 00:31:02.640 for yourself. We're doing this, will according to this. If you're not 391 00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:07.480 doing that, you know we're not putting enough time, we're not doing we're 392 00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:10.599 just you're never doing enough and you can never do enough. I'M gonna be 393 00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:12.680 blunt about it. No matter how hard you work, no matter what it 394 00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:15.039 is that you do, you're going to look back at it, you're going 395 00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:19.279 to be like, man, the hour that I spent watching this TV show, 396 00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:23.720 I could have accomplished XYZ. Well, you don't want to worry about 397 00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:33.079 what you did accomplish. Worry about working on yourself or about that time that 398 00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:37.880 that you will invest it in yourself that you feel great about. You know 399 00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:41.680 so, and actually is. That's that's the time we we is not just 400 00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:45.519 about spending times, quality time. You just hit on the head of what 401 00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:51.720 my answer is to this question of what is your business is greatest asset, 402 00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:57.720 and you both touched on aspects of that tie directly to this, but in 403 00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:04.960 my opinion, your greatest asset in business is yourself, your nobody's going to 404 00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:09.799 be as passionate, even if you have, you know, employees or contractors, 405 00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:17.799 collaborators, no matter what it is, your business falls or fails or 406 00:32:17.839 --> 00:32:22.599 succeeds based on how much you're able to put in, how much you're able 407 00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:29.079 to sustain yourself, your health, mentally, physically, spiritually, to have 408 00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:32.519 that time to recharge, because if you're out of batteries, your your venture 409 00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:38.880 is out of batteries. So to me that's where the the burnout comes into 410 00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:45.000 play. And again we talked about different signs and having that network as a 411 00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:50.200 solution to to let you recognize when you're not taking care of your business is 412 00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:52.960 greatest asset. But at the end of the day, if you focus on 413 00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:59.440 your health again, your mental, physical, spiritual wellbeing, take that time 414 00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:02.240 to reach o Orge, even though it is, as you said, time 415 00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:07.960 not working on the business, not doing, but being. That is what 416 00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:12.440 Your Business sees that that's a research and Development Department for a major corporation. 417 00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:16.519 That's the you know all the time and effort that multiple people handle in the 418 00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:21.720 large corporation. But when it's you, you have to be able to sustain 419 00:33:21.759 --> 00:33:25.200 those and and keep going and keep moving and have that momentum. And the 420 00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:29.359 only way to do that is to stop and fill up the tank. Along 421 00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:31.880 the way, take that time to recharge, go to the beach, have 422 00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:38.319 your your Bushwhack, but without the computer, and and actually enjoy the the 423 00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:43.200 sun and stuff. Because for me too, I mean my brain is always 424 00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:45.839 going, but it's usually like, you know, in the shower, when 425 00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:49.640 I'm like doing something completely different, that I get like my best ideas and 426 00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:51.519 I'm like, Oh, why didn't I ever think of that? And it's 427 00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:55.119 because I was so focused on the doing that I didn't take the time to 428 00:33:55.119 --> 00:34:00.319 to allow new thoughts or new you know, just things to come in and 429 00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:04.039 out at will. And that's that's like. It's like freewriting, if you 430 00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:07.240 if you ever did that as an exercise, I mean they say you just 431 00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:10.480 just start writing and then you'll eventually find something to latch onto to keep writing 432 00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:15.159 about. If you're having writers block, and I think that's if you have 433 00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:19.719 an entrepreneurs block, you have to take that time to just experience other things, 434 00:34:19.880 --> 00:34:22.239 get the taste of life, remember why you did what you did. 435 00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:25.880 So you know, people that work so much that they are unable to spend 436 00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:30.400 time, you know, with their family and their kids. To me, 437 00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:37.719 being a father now, spending spending time with my my daughter reminds me of 438 00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:43.679 why I'm doing what I'm doing. So yeah, that that's just where I 439 00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:46.280 wanted to bring it to is, I think time and the health and everything 440 00:34:46.280 --> 00:34:51.719 it comes simplified into. If you're not taking care of your businesses and taking 441 00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:59.000 care of Salanda. I jump in. As you guys know, I'm doing 442 00:34:59.000 --> 00:35:04.480 my PhD and actually my pahd is on work passion right, and it links 443 00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:09.039 to entrepreneurial passion. So, to your point, if your passion, whatever 444 00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:14.159 you're passionate about, whether you're an employee working in an organization or you're an 445 00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:21.679 entrepreneur, there's certain things your environment, your scope of your responsibilities, your 446 00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:28.199 job characteristics, your relationship characteristics, that all play a part in how your 447 00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:31.159 passion shows up. Right and there we when we think of passion, we 448 00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:36.599 think of the like the fun part of passion, the glorious part of Fashion 449 00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:39.800 Passion, being in the flow and all of that. Well, that's harmonious 450 00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:45.239 work passion. But there is a dark or a shadow side to passion, 451 00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:51.039 which is called Obsessive Work Passion. And when you are so obsessed with either 452 00:35:51.159 --> 00:35:57.400 your career or being an entrepreneur that it starts to negatively impact other areas of 453 00:35:57.440 --> 00:36:00.039 your life, your relationship with your spouse, the time you spend with your 454 00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:05.599 family, taking time for self care. That's when you read. Those are 455 00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:09.480 signs that you're in that obsessive zone and maybe you need to take to get 456 00:36:09.559 --> 00:36:15.239 back to a more positive outlook and work passion where you can balance those multiple 457 00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:19.639 things, because that's entrepreneurs we still have families, right, we still have 458 00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:23.599 personal obligations, we're running up business, we're doing all of this stuff, 459 00:36:23.880 --> 00:36:30.000 but what we do should not be at the detriment of everything else, especially, 460 00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:37.400 especially our mental health, our emotional health, are spiritual health, our 461 00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:42.400 physical health. You know, when you can balance all of those things and 462 00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:45.400 still do what you want to be passionate about and still be able to engage 463 00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:51.039 with family, then you know you're in that harmonious work passion zone and not 464 00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:59.360 be obsessive. So just a little nugget from the PhD dissertation. Christ question 465 00:36:59.480 --> 00:37:07.400 I'm over here that I'm happy we got the doctor right. To be you 466 00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:10.639 got it right, right, right, in prescriptions for success, left and 467 00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:25.400 right. Yeah, awesome, Christ in. Any last nuggets? I'm Christan 468 00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:32.960 froze. Clearly he has no nuggets. O. I it, but crazy. 469 00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:37.719 Well, yeah, so actually, I mean I think we kind of 470 00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:40.960 touched on a so, so starting out a business, yes, you do 471 00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:45.360 need to get that momentum going. Even with the entrepreneurship podcasts, we had 472 00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:49.880 to put so much work in at the beginning just to get up and running 473 00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:52.760 and get it, you know, the from the graphics and website and and 474 00:37:53.159 --> 00:37:55.400 the topics. What are we going to who are going to be our guests? 475 00:37:55.639 --> 00:38:00.360 When are we going to record? All of that does take a lot 476 00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:05.639 of work and a lot of extra commitment on the front end. But once 477 00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:08.719 you start getting it to where it needs to be, then, and and 478 00:38:09.320 --> 00:38:13.920 I think we had talked about this maybe in a previous or the last episode, 479 00:38:13.960 --> 00:38:20.159 but Tristan was talking about building a website and how it kind of had 480 00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:22.519 hit some snaps, even though we had, you know, spend so much 481 00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:25.519 time doing this and how frustrating it was. But once we took the time 482 00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:30.119 to say, all right, let's take a pause and actually reflect on where 483 00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:32.719 we came from, you know, just a couple months ago, to where 484 00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:36.639 we have the podcast now. And it's not perfect. We're still improving with 485 00:38:36.639 --> 00:38:42.960 each recording, in each episode release, but where we're taking that time to 486 00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:47.280 actually recognize where what we put into it and we're not slowing down, but 487 00:38:47.320 --> 00:38:52.519 we're we're finding our pace, we're finding our balance and I think at the 488 00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:55.880 end of the day, that's if you're passionate about what you're doing, you're 489 00:38:55.880 --> 00:39:00.960 taking care of yourself, then the burn out, while it it definitely is 490 00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:06.400 going to happen because it's just human nature, it's life. But just keeping 491 00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:09.199 yourself in check and having that support system around you to help keep you in 492 00:39:09.280 --> 00:39:15.079 check and taking care of your your biggest asset. So I think that's it 493 00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:21.840 for this episode and on Entrepreneuri. You'll burn out. The burnout is real, 494 00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:25.960 but but if you keep your your sense about you and keep reflecting on 495 00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:30.320 where you are and take that time to check in with yourself and ask others 496 00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:34.719 like Hey, am I acting differently these days? I mean Shalanda and I 497 00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:37.760 had a couple, yeah, I call it uple weeks ago. Were like, 498 00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:40.960 all right, I don't know what's happening in the environment. Yes, 499 00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:46.320 I had just moved. I was like I was losing my shit and and 500 00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:51.320 we were just like hey, this at whatever energy. Yeah, exactly, 501 00:39:52.320 --> 00:40:01.639 and it was. It was a bad trip. It wasn't but, but, 502 00:40:01.360 --> 00:40:05.679 but, at the end of the day, we're here together and again 503 00:40:05.719 --> 00:40:08.280 we're leaning on our support system and and now we're able to look, look 504 00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:13.559 back and laugh on. You know what we were struggling with just a week 505 00:40:13.639 --> 00:40:17.840 or two ago. So the burnout is real. But but keep yourself in 506 00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:22.599 check, take the time to actually detach, to just be have that time 507 00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:28.719 and and you can pace yourself to win the race and be the tortous at 508 00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:32.000 the end of the day. So that's right. That's it. That's it 509 00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:37.239 for for this week and we'll see you next Tuesday. Thanks for joining us 510 00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:45.960 on the entrepreneur trip with x Shelanda Te, Trystan and see Chris. Have 511 00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:52.840 A go, everybody. Thank you for taking this trip with us. We 512 00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:58.320 hope you had a great time. Join US every Tuesday for another dose of 513 00:40:58.599 --> 00:41:04.440 next TVC and don't forget to like, share and subscribe. Be Sure to 514 00:41:04.519 --> 00:41:10.119 follow us on Facebook, instagram and visit us at the entrepreneurs tripcom for more 515 00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:14.800 entrepreneurs ship tips and fits. Next time,