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Jamar's Take on Collaboration - Part 1

Jamar's Take on Collaboration - Part 1

A true Renaissance man, Jamar wears many hats – serial entrepreneur, rapper, songwriter, photographer, and most importantly, father! 

Jamar, also known as Sincere or Sin, joins X.T.C. to talk about establishing long-lasting collaborations and how when done successfully benefits all parties involved. 

As an example, he shares a collaborative experience on a recent Shot by Sin photoshoot done in St. Croix, USVI. 

Essentially, the takeaway – collaborations have to make sense! 

Check out this episode to learn more and via YouTube to SEE the final product of Jamar’s collaborative handy work.

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:03.560 You'RE A serial entrepreneur. You do a clothing line, you do photography, 2 00:00:03.640 --> 00:00:06.559 you do music, you're a man, you're like a renaissance man. You 3 00:00:06.639 --> 00:00:09.880 have your hands and a lot of different things. So, as far as 4 00:00:09.919 --> 00:00:16.199 collaborating, do you find that you collaborate more? Welcome to the entrepreneurs trip 5 00:00:16.280 --> 00:00:28.559 podcast with XC. I'm Shalanda. I'm Chris. As an entrepreneur starting or 6 00:00:28.559 --> 00:00:32.920 growing your business, you may have a destination, but the journey getting there 7 00:00:33.240 --> 00:00:37.399 and be a drid. We want to be your travel companions and inject a 8 00:00:37.560 --> 00:00:44.119 dose of etc as we explore real life conversations about navigating the world entrepreneurship in 9 00:00:44.159 --> 00:00:52.240 the US and the Caribbean. Take this trip with us, one to one 10 00:00:52.280 --> 00:00:57.039 too, my micn. Good Day, good day, and welcome to another 11 00:00:57.119 --> 00:01:03.600 episode of XTC. I'm here with the X. I said X, not 12 00:01:03.799 --> 00:01:10.799 my ex come on the X. Alright, so we're gonna be right there. 13 00:01:10.879 --> 00:01:15.200 I'm here with Shelana, I'm Tristan and that's my boy Chris. I 14 00:01:15.280 --> 00:01:19.120 was gonna be like smokey jokes, and what we got here today is, 15 00:01:19.280 --> 00:01:26.400 uh, another episode of Chris. Where's my timer? We don't. We 16 00:01:26.439 --> 00:01:30.480 don't have the timer yet. This is just a short interp oh, now 17 00:01:30.920 --> 00:01:34.040 now we're switching up, because NOCELANA, we're not doing it. Okay, 18 00:01:34.079 --> 00:01:38.760 so today's episode we're talking about collaborating, and you see who's not collaborating with 19 00:01:38.799 --> 00:01:42.640 me and my boy Chris, at the bottom, he's laughing the in tears 20 00:01:42.680 --> 00:01:45.560 in his eyes. And what we're really here to do is talk about Sincere 21 00:01:46.120 --> 00:01:51.439 Jamar, another entrepreneur from the Virgin Islands. Um, that's gonna give us 22 00:01:51.439 --> 00:01:56.319 a little insight about collaborating. So sit tight, buckle up, get ready, 23 00:01:56.319 --> 00:02:01.439 you're gonna hear some bars about to start. Let's get into what you're 24 00:02:01.439 --> 00:02:13.400 sipping while you trip. Oh, that's dope, you heard that. That's 25 00:02:15.599 --> 00:02:19.879 show, Jaman. We start with a little drink. And what I mean 26 00:02:20.000 --> 00:02:21.919 like, you know, when you go out, you know, you're a 27 00:02:22.000 --> 00:02:23.919 rapper, photographer, you know, sometimes you need to get a little loose. 28 00:02:23.960 --> 00:02:28.159 Before we started showing this what this is about. So we're trying to 29 00:02:28.199 --> 00:02:32.199 figure out what you're sipping while you tripping on this entrepreneurs trip. Right, 30 00:02:32.280 --> 00:02:38.360 no, I'm sitting on some water. No labels shown, you know. 31 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:43.039 Oh, so you did that. So he did that. You saw the 32 00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:47.560 similar subliminal Slana. Yeah, water, Mind Your Business. You got that. 33 00:02:49.159 --> 00:02:52.879 Did that? Water Maya business what you're drinking, big SIS, I 34 00:02:52.879 --> 00:02:59.199 saw you in the morning cup a really good glass of and you see, 35 00:02:59.520 --> 00:03:02.080 I didn't have I don't have my usual mug. My daughter is WHO's Mug 36 00:03:02.080 --> 00:03:07.000 I'm musing. I don't like people for Mornings, for people. So this 37 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:12.000 is gonna be an interesting show. That says a lot about you. We 38 00:03:12.039 --> 00:03:16.560 know WHO's not collaborating today, big Chris, my little bro Chris, the 39 00:03:16.599 --> 00:03:21.879 ones behind the ones and twos that pushes the button, switches the show and 40 00:03:21.960 --> 00:03:24.000 switches the moved. What you got for me today? You got the fall 41 00:03:24.039 --> 00:03:32.159 lineup, as usual, the big Jugg of water here, got the cafe 42 00:03:32.879 --> 00:03:42.719 throwing back. Oh, we know it's coming, not necessarily in that order. 43 00:03:44.280 --> 00:03:47.520 It's smalling his life. I'm over here. I'm a little glass, 44 00:03:47.560 --> 00:03:52.840 just a little glass, you know, but it's a little early. Got 45 00:03:52.879 --> 00:03:57.039 My ugly face on when I tasted it. It looks like water, tastes 46 00:03:57.080 --> 00:04:15.479 like gays. This is gonna be an interesting show. Alright, so we've 47 00:04:15.479 --> 00:04:17.040 got ten minutes in the shot clock. We had ten minutes left in this 48 00:04:17.079 --> 00:04:21.560 segment. We're here with sin he loves basketball. Usually my big SISHLAN. 49 00:04:21.680 --> 00:04:25.120 There's a point guard. She runs in front of the show, but today 50 00:04:25.199 --> 00:04:29.519 she's kicking it back. Look at that shooter. I'm seeing nails again. 51 00:04:29.519 --> 00:04:34.199 Maybe you're switching up. She got the nail. That's step step curry form 52 00:04:34.279 --> 00:04:45.240 right there. So we're here with sincere from the family and we're gonna unpack 53 00:04:45.319 --> 00:04:46.720 him a little bit. What we're gonna talk about is who he is, 54 00:04:47.160 --> 00:04:51.279 what he's about, how he feels about collaborating, when he does, why 55 00:04:51.319 --> 00:04:55.920 he does it and if he doesn't do it. Um. So, as 56 00:04:55.959 --> 00:04:59.040 you know, what we've been doing is dropping a lot of nuggets throughout our 57 00:04:59.079 --> 00:05:02.639 episodes, and here's a quick bio about saying. Excuse me, I'M gonna 58 00:05:02.680 --> 00:05:06.480 be looking at my notes real quick. Let's see. He's from the east 59 00:05:06.519 --> 00:05:11.600 side of Stroy. He's a rapper, writer, photographer and, most importantly, 60 00:05:11.680 --> 00:05:14.600 he's a father. If you ever check out his facebook post, he 61 00:05:14.959 --> 00:05:17.959 is his daughter playing doctor. He's always playing with his kids, shouting out, 62 00:05:18.000 --> 00:05:23.319 his son getting people have joined up youtube channels. I never heard him 63 00:05:23.319 --> 00:05:25.879 say about you know, click my page. No, nothing, but he 64 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:28.839 does encourage it for his kids. I'm gonna give him that. I'm gonna 65 00:05:28.839 --> 00:05:34.319 give him that. Let's see. Now we're talking about collaborating and I want 66 00:05:34.360 --> 00:05:38.000 to show you guys something. So he might be just a little bias. 67 00:05:38.639 --> 00:05:40.879 I want to stay when he was younger. I know he did music with 68 00:05:40.920 --> 00:05:47.279 the FAM group. How many guys were in the frame music? As far 69 00:05:47.360 --> 00:05:54.839 as artists, it was about five of us. Creatively, I know you 70 00:05:54.839 --> 00:05:58.920 guys had that video guy on point. What else you have? Your guy? 71 00:05:59.000 --> 00:06:04.519 We gotta produce that. Ah, that video producers. Yeah, we 72 00:06:04.639 --> 00:06:09.800 just had a team, like it's literally the family. The family say were 73 00:06:09.839 --> 00:06:13.680 like all of us grow up together us. So it was a lot. 74 00:06:15.879 --> 00:06:18.319 So He's been collaborating for a while. He was blessed the safe artists like 75 00:06:18.439 --> 00:06:25.639 Taurus, Riley beaniem and the V I own got pressure Bennidi verse. Rock 76 00:06:25.720 --> 00:06:29.560 city wasn't a line of for a little while. He graduated full sale. 77 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:39.000 So we're gonna Bring this full circuit. Brother Chris, I heard him talking 78 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:42.519 the full sale talk. I was a little jealous. I was like, 79 00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:45.759 I even get to go to full sale. I had to go to college. 80 00:06:45.800 --> 00:06:49.000 College, I was out here learning about monets and then my professor killed 81 00:06:49.040 --> 00:06:56.519 me because it's called Monette, that cheese and cracker talk. We went to 82 00:06:56.560 --> 00:06:59.560 college. College too. We just had a really nice studios to work and 83 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:03.800 Oh, you see how you did that now. We did that. Leave 84 00:07:03.839 --> 00:07:10.920 it to the artists. So, Jomar Sin, talk to me. We 85 00:07:10.959 --> 00:07:14.680 want to. Um, we had a previous conversation about collaborating. I don't 86 00:07:14.720 --> 00:07:17.560 want to touch too much about it because I don't want to taint your borders 87 00:07:17.680 --> 00:07:21.800 about collaborating. I think Shelan and I agreed to disagree in one of the 88 00:07:21.839 --> 00:07:29.120 episodes and then we just completely disagreed another episode. Um, Chris Kinda held 89 00:07:29.160 --> 00:07:33.199 us together for a little bit. So how you feel about collaborating with people? 90 00:07:34.800 --> 00:07:41.199 Um, I like collaborating once it makes sense. Mm Hmmm, once, 91 00:07:41.920 --> 00:07:47.480 once we could both benefit and it's not one sided situation where you benefiting 92 00:07:47.560 --> 00:07:51.879 from me and I ain't getting nothing from it. Whereas not saying that I 93 00:07:53.000 --> 00:07:57.199 need to be paid in return for helping a situation, but if we're come 94 00:07:57.199 --> 00:08:01.879 in together creatively, it should both benefit both. Was Mhm, well said. 95 00:08:01.399 --> 00:08:09.040 M Hmm. Wow. So who's in your feature in spots? Um, 96 00:08:09.079 --> 00:08:11.720 I like a little decision productions here and there. You know what I 97 00:08:15.279 --> 00:08:22.040 think? Tristan intentionally set up that one right. I was expected maybe two 98 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:24.240 more and then it would have bade me. I didn't expect to be like 99 00:08:24.639 --> 00:08:30.759 top top, but I'll take the top spot. Um. So farm there. 100 00:08:30.800 --> 00:08:33.039 Like we definitely agree. I think we had a conversation about, you 101 00:08:33.080 --> 00:08:37.279 know, choosing who it is that we collaborate with. Is there any point 102 00:08:37.320 --> 00:08:41.840 in time in which you feel like you don't want to collaborate with someone or, 103 00:08:41.159 --> 00:08:43.559 I don't want to say it was forced to, like maybe went into 104 00:08:43.559 --> 00:08:48.159 a project not, um, really feeling a hundred about it, but maybe 105 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:54.159 loving what the outcome of the project could be. Um, situations where I 106 00:08:54.240 --> 00:09:00.799 don't want to collapse is somebody who I feel is this serial about the craft, 107 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:03.639 isn't trying to improve the craft, and then they just okay, well, 108 00:09:03.679 --> 00:09:07.720 cool, you have five thousand followers. I have too. Let me 109 00:09:07.799 --> 00:09:16.720 just put him out, jump on something with him and basically get some attention 110 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:22.799 from it's following or something like that, where they genuinely don't. I have 111 00:09:22.840 --> 00:09:26.159 no interest in really collabinates like what he could do for me that kind of 112 00:09:26.159 --> 00:09:31.720 way. No. Yes, situation that I tend to run away from and 113 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:37.960 most of the time is either like a genuine relationship, like you're around somebody 114 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:41.360 for a certain amount of time and you build that bond so you understand, 115 00:09:41.480 --> 00:09:45.480 like y'all have the same views and same idea. So there working to get 116 00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:48.399 a collabin won't be an issue. You know what I mean? To collaborating 117 00:09:48.519 --> 00:09:52.279 viewers in something that does happened like now, for now, because that's all 118 00:09:52.320 --> 00:09:56.919 about to ask next. Um, it's not something where I could be like 119 00:09:56.399 --> 00:10:00.039 just call you up and be like Yo, saying you on collaborate, it 120 00:10:00.120 --> 00:10:03.919 is on this or not me in particular. But let's you're strange, you 121 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:07.519 know what I'm saying, just being able to call to collaborate with you instantly. 122 00:10:07.559 --> 00:10:11.159 Is there like a process that they have to go through? Not necessarily 123 00:10:11.200 --> 00:10:13.279 all the time. For the most part, I would like to Um, 124 00:10:13.960 --> 00:10:18.039 to have some type of report with a person, but at the same time, 125 00:10:18.919 --> 00:10:22.759 somebody might hit me up and like Yo, I have an idea for 126 00:10:22.799 --> 00:10:26.840 a shoot or anything, I have an idea for a collab that we could 127 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:30.440 we could do together, and in return I would say, okay, cool. 128 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:31.639 Well, Um, let me see your work or let me see an 129 00:10:31.679 --> 00:10:35.840 instagram or whatever where you have your work, and I might go to the 130 00:10:35.879 --> 00:10:39.159 page and I see something I inspired me and say, okay, well, 131 00:10:39.240 --> 00:10:43.639 you know this person kind of dope like. So that's in that sense, 132 00:10:43.840 --> 00:10:46.919 I don't have to have a report with them. Just the mutual respect for 133 00:10:46.960 --> 00:10:54.879 each other work is enough to hopefully, um work ethic is work me Collabin 134 00:10:54.000 --> 00:10:58.120 with you know what it means, but for the most part the work will 135 00:10:58.120 --> 00:11:01.720 speak for itself and that's that would the first thing to bring me into wanting 136 00:11:01.759 --> 00:11:05.919 to be collect so I think if I could be here, if I could 137 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:11.519 jump in here for a second, you can. Well, I am anyhow, 138 00:11:15.320 --> 00:11:18.200 no, because, as you were talking, one of the things that 139 00:11:18.240 --> 00:11:22.919 we have talked about in season one is where you the quality of your work 140 00:11:24.919 --> 00:11:28.200 precedes you a lot of the time, and you're gonna show us something later 141 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:33.399 in the episode that actually I saw on facebook and I was like, Whoa, 142 00:11:33.759 --> 00:11:39.000 this is dope. So to finally meet the person behind the scenes that 143 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:43.840 made that happen. Um kind of speaks to this example and as entrepreneurs, 144 00:11:43.879 --> 00:11:48.840 it's important for us to understand that our work usually precedes us. People see 145 00:11:48.840 --> 00:11:52.600 our work, they may not know who we are, and that is a 146 00:11:52.639 --> 00:11:56.679 critical component as to whether or not we might want to collaborate with these folks 147 00:11:56.799 --> 00:12:00.639 right, because we see the quality of the work. So, as a 148 00:12:00.679 --> 00:12:05.639 serial entrepreneur, because Tristan is really into this collaborating thing, Um, and 149 00:12:05.840 --> 00:12:09.320 you're a serial entrepreneur. You do a clothing line, you do photography, 150 00:12:09.399 --> 00:12:13.320 you do music, you're a man, you're like a renaissance man, you 151 00:12:13.399 --> 00:12:16.320 have your hands and a lot of different things. So as far as collaborating 152 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:22.720 to you find that you collaborate more on maybe creative projects like photography, versus 153 00:12:22.840 --> 00:12:28.840 maybe the clothing line or how has that been for you, mum? Well, 154 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:35.279 with music I collaborated a lot more because at the time I was frequently 155 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:37.759 doing music and putting out music. A lot of people would hit me up 156 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:41.600 and, Oh, I want I want to feature, I want this, 157 00:12:41.720 --> 00:12:45.879 I want to and at the time it was mostly like artists, from local 158 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:50.039 artists, from like Heresa like that, and at the time they didn't have 159 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:54.440 a following or they were up and coming and I knew how it is like 160 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:58.039 when I was up and coming and wanted to help or whatever the cases. 161 00:12:58.120 --> 00:13:05.919 So I was literally doing features for everybody that, like if I felt the 162 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:09.440 music. You understand, like if I sent me something, I'll be okay, 163 00:13:09.480 --> 00:13:11.440 cool, send me the song. If I like it, I'll jump 164 00:13:11.440 --> 00:13:18.000 on it. And I literally did maybe like twenty features in like a month, 165 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:22.240 arting verses for people and stuff like that. You know what I mean? 166 00:13:24.440 --> 00:13:28.799 That sense, I like collaborate music wise, like I love colab quickly. 167 00:13:30.320 --> 00:13:35.279 As far as the clothing line, I haven't really collaborated with any other 168 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:41.000 designers or any other Um holding entrepreneurs. I've created in a sense of like 169 00:13:41.039 --> 00:13:45.960 pop up shops and stuff like that, but the actual design, nothing like 170 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:50.399 that. Yeah, collaborated. Me and Tristan collaborated a couple of times. 171 00:13:52.519 --> 00:13:58.200 Christians is super collaborator. I collaborate with Christen still. I'm just trying to 172 00:13:58.240 --> 00:14:05.639 get Christ on this podcast. So you're already done exactly. I mean. 173 00:14:05.679 --> 00:14:09.759 I mean that works, it works, but it got to be one of 174 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:15.080 those things, though, that I don't want to see. This happened organically. 175 00:14:15.519 --> 00:14:18.679 She Lanna Jamari. I don't know. Ways is I talking about? 176 00:14:18.720 --> 00:14:22.600 Like this is like I want, I got the family production, like, 177 00:14:22.600 --> 00:14:26.840 like this is where your family came together. We decided that we got something 178 00:14:26.279 --> 00:14:31.559 and yeah, this is a collaboration, but I want, not even want, 179 00:14:31.639 --> 00:14:35.279 like I feel like I need that that blow them out of the water. 180 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:41.360 Collaborate Chris, like some funny documentary. Sound crazy, like where you 181 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:46.759 see like the Sun. That happens that you just didn't see. Um spoke 182 00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:50.039 about collaborating. Um Sin, I told you about. Well, I asked 183 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:56.759 you about like the process, because my sister, Shelana, she's an amazing 184 00:14:56.799 --> 00:15:00.600 gatekeeper. You're not getting it in her circle, of messing with her circle 185 00:15:00.679 --> 00:15:03.600 if you're not serious about it. And that sometimes how the process is. 186 00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:07.639 Jay Z have one of those like, you know, things like todd on 187 00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:11.200 him. You just don't give him your music. It got to go through 188 00:15:11.240 --> 00:15:15.440 the filtering system before you get there. And she, Lana, is that 189 00:15:16.399 --> 00:15:20.799 Chris, Chris, Chris, you know, got her heart. So she's 190 00:15:20.840 --> 00:15:24.159 not letting you to Collab with Chris. It's not worth it. So we 191 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:28.159 just need like that. That that shocker, like when I burned the check. 192 00:15:28.200 --> 00:15:31.679 That was an amazing Collab, Chris, but we gotta do something that's 193 00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:33.799 gonna be amazing. So what we're gonna do real quick, before we hit 194 00:15:33.840 --> 00:15:37.600 this detour, is we're gonna show you a quick pick Chris. I'm gonna 195 00:15:37.639 --> 00:15:41.000 let you count it out. We're gonna leave it up for about maybe seven 196 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:58.120 seconds so he could see we're gonna hit this detour. Okay, I got 197 00:15:58.879 --> 00:16:03.799 if you're only listening to this podcast via audio, you need to Tu tour 198 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:07.679 and go to the video cast so you could see that image. Dope as 199 00:16:07.720 --> 00:16:12.240 how it is to tell you. So you gotta switch over if your audio 200 00:16:12.320 --> 00:16:18.840 switch over the video. Beautiful. PROPS TO UH yeah, propsy, that 201 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:23.360 right. Uh. So what we're gonna do was that that was an image 202 00:16:23.360 --> 00:16:30.440 that you just saw by Jamar. Since here and Jamar tell us how that 203 00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:34.399 collaboration went about, how it came about from I wanted to start to finish. 204 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:41.440 You got like ten minutes, three minutes of my segment double collaboration. 205 00:16:41.799 --> 00:16:45.440 The model hit me, Um me and the model we talked about doing some 206 00:16:45.440 --> 00:16:51.519 something different. So she wanted to do something on the beach. I kind 207 00:16:51.519 --> 00:16:56.200 of tired of doing the typical beach shoots. I am accept let me just 208 00:16:56.240 --> 00:17:02.879 take over full creative control, though. He showed me an image and it 209 00:17:02.960 --> 00:17:06.359 was cool, but I wanted to focus on their eyes like. So, 210 00:17:07.559 --> 00:17:11.920 Um, I went ahead and she purchased the master to go a mask. 211 00:17:12.319 --> 00:17:18.440 Purchased that and I hit Tristan because he's the lighting genius. You know what 212 00:17:18.440 --> 00:17:25.640 I mean? I don't know that. I don't do that. The idea, 213 00:17:25.720 --> 00:17:30.200 show him the concept. He was down for it. Um, we 214 00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:33.599 literally went straight to like women. That's where we shot that in Um, 215 00:17:33.160 --> 00:17:40.279 big wow. Um. Yeah, we had to two shoots. So basically 216 00:17:40.279 --> 00:17:42.480 I was part two of the shoot. So the first shoot we were doing 217 00:17:42.559 --> 00:17:45.519 was a crop from like going in the little Um, kind of like a 218 00:17:45.559 --> 00:17:51.559 small little covid. So we did that and the sun it was supposed to 219 00:17:51.559 --> 00:17:56.240 be a sunset shoot but because it was cloudy and overcast that day, it 220 00:17:56.599 --> 00:18:00.359 didn't try to turn out and we were enough the other parts of the shoot. 221 00:18:00.400 --> 00:18:06.880 So we raised across to the beach and maybe like ten fifteen minutes of 222 00:18:07.559 --> 00:18:11.039 light to flow it. M. Yeah, and the interesting made it happened. 223 00:18:11.960 --> 00:18:18.680 He Um definitely definitely came in clutch with a light and yes, so 224 00:18:21.680 --> 00:18:25.440 that was his perspective of it. I might end Jamara hit me. We 225 00:18:25.519 --> 00:18:29.480 spoke and I like about Jamar's like a lot of people that you meet, 226 00:18:29.640 --> 00:18:33.000 we have a tendency are trying to keep on holding onto our ideas. So 227 00:18:33.039 --> 00:18:37.440 he would do something like Yo, I'm thinking about doing an ice shoot. 228 00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:41.240 I was like Yo, that's dope, and he'd be like yeah, but 229 00:18:41.359 --> 00:18:44.400 this is my concept for it. I don't like. I wanted thinking that 230 00:18:44.960 --> 00:18:47.920 and instead of, like Jamar, being like Oh wait, my idea, 231 00:18:48.960 --> 00:18:52.680 um, like don't do it, it's like no, I need you to 232 00:18:52.720 --> 00:18:56.079 do that, I need you to do this. So on. That way 233 00:18:56.680 --> 00:19:00.440 we could have our different perspectives. You could put it together, we could, 234 00:19:00.640 --> 00:19:03.720 we could look at it. So it's almost like a friendly competition while 235 00:19:03.799 --> 00:19:08.119 working with each other to help enhance each other. Um, and these are 236 00:19:08.119 --> 00:19:11.519 the people that, like I collaborate with. I feel like you have to 237 00:19:11.519 --> 00:19:17.200 be super competitive. Um, Steve Shopping Steel. So once we got there, 238 00:19:17.319 --> 00:19:18.880 um here like well, I got a model, this was an idea. 239 00:19:18.920 --> 00:19:22.119 I don't even think he showed me to face mass, to tell you 240 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:23.400 the truth, it was just like, Um, I get this, something 241 00:19:23.519 --> 00:19:27.759 like Jamya. I think we get what kind insolating things like you know do 242 00:19:27.880 --> 00:19:32.039 though, picks, lightning and changing the game. Um, we did one 243 00:19:32.079 --> 00:19:37.400 shoot before again, an amazing guy, Um Prom young lady wasn't able to 244 00:19:37.400 --> 00:19:41.880 have problem picks or whatever it was. He volunteered to do help prom picks 245 00:19:41.920 --> 00:19:45.000 for free. That kind of recreate the event for hall and that's where it 246 00:19:45.039 --> 00:19:48.400 is. I started collabin with Jamara and enlightening. So when he showed me 247 00:19:49.720 --> 00:19:52.799 like he wanted to do this shoot, I don't even think we're gonna like 248 00:19:52.880 --> 00:19:56.440 hit eyes off. But that's enough about the detour what we're about to do, 249 00:19:56.480 --> 00:20:08.920 because it because heading to the souvenirs. I don't know what I'm going 250 00:20:08.960 --> 00:20:12.079 to remember that when I come back from Greece. No, no, no, 251 00:20:12.079 --> 00:20:22.000 no, no, not that. There are some really good souvenirs from 252 00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:29.000 this conversation. I mean, when you think about Um collaborating, especially when 253 00:20:29.000 --> 00:20:36.279 you're a serial entrepreneur, you have to be very intentional about which business ventures 254 00:20:36.480 --> 00:20:41.440 you may collaborate with right and others that you may want to hold closer to 255 00:20:41.480 --> 00:20:45.759 your chest because creatively, you want to maintain control, and I think jamark 256 00:20:45.920 --> 00:20:49.000 kind of shared that with us, versus doing music, where he did high 257 00:20:49.039 --> 00:20:53.519 collaboration, and his clothing line, where maybe he did collaboration that maybe on 258 00:20:53.640 --> 00:20:57.119 the creative side, but more on the distribution side. So that was a 259 00:20:57.160 --> 00:21:03.960 good takeaway from me. The other takeaway that I really liked is that Um, 260 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:08.759 and I think we touched on it before, is that with any collaboration 261 00:21:10.680 --> 00:21:15.519 Um. You want to be able to produce an output better than if you 262 00:21:15.599 --> 00:21:21.720 had only done it by yourself. And that was my takeaway from that conversation, 263 00:21:22.079 --> 00:21:26.119 and that's an amazing takeaway of the quality of that image that we showed 264 00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:30.839 earlier, is that he had an idea. The MODEL had an idea initially 265 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:36.559 right. She approached you, you helped to enhance her idea and then you 266 00:21:36.680 --> 00:21:41.519 brought a person which further helped to enhance the idea and then, boom, 267 00:21:45.160 --> 00:21:48.759 drop a knowledge. She didn't want to she didn't want to collaborate. No, 268 00:21:48.960 --> 00:21:52.480 I love collaborating, but you know, to Jama's point, you need 269 00:21:52.559 --> 00:21:59.400 to make sense right. The collaboration needs to make sense to collaboration needs to 270 00:21:59.400 --> 00:22:07.359 be with people who have shared values right and has a high level of Um 271 00:22:07.000 --> 00:22:14.240 Vision to be able to see something that has not yet been manifested in the 272 00:22:14.279 --> 00:22:19.039 physical form. Right. How you like them? Nuggets like you still don't 273 00:22:19.039 --> 00:22:22.759 want when you're shifting. You still don't woman souvenirs. No, no, 274 00:22:22.799 --> 00:22:26.720 I do, I do. I don't really want Chris. I don't want 275 00:22:26.720 --> 00:22:32.680 to hear Chris on window pane at this moment. That was some real nuggets 276 00:22:32.720 --> 00:22:37.480 Um for me. What I really took away from it is just Um. 277 00:22:37.559 --> 00:22:42.119 You collaborate sometimes with the people that you believe in, Um, and sometimes 278 00:22:42.160 --> 00:22:47.839 the person doesn't have to be able to see it in themselves, but the 279 00:22:47.880 --> 00:22:51.200 fact that you believe in what it is that they can bring to the table, 280 00:22:51.240 --> 00:22:55.680 what it manifests something completely, I want to say, different. Um. 281 00:22:55.720 --> 00:23:00.880 I went into the shoot not expecting, not ex actn um, that 282 00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:04.599 ice segment to come out so, so dope. When I was sitting there 283 00:23:04.640 --> 00:23:10.559 holding the lights and these big as mosquito like they just filled up your whole 284 00:23:10.720 --> 00:23:14.960 arm. They're like the ship, like Yo, make sure you hit that 285 00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:18.920 shot, make sure, but that's it. I had enough faith that he 286 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:22.440 would have hit that shot. So when we saw the end results, it 287 00:23:22.519 --> 00:23:26.119 was like damn, it's something that I feel like we both could be proud 288 00:23:26.160 --> 00:23:30.599 of. Um, and that's your sit and sometimes with this, I like 289 00:23:30.680 --> 00:23:36.640 collaborating with people like Jamaar, does a fabulous job of giving people their roses, 290 00:23:36.680 --> 00:23:38.160 you know what I'm saying. So it's not even something that where you 291 00:23:38.240 --> 00:23:42.160 have to wonder who it is that helped. Whatever it is he kept shodow 292 00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:45.319 me out to me to be make it seem as if I was a bigger 293 00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:49.200 part of the process than what I felt I really was. But I really 294 00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:53.920 appreciate that and I'm gonna give it to Chris with ten to go. Well, 295 00:23:53.960 --> 00:23:56.839 I'm about to have my own a little segment here, but I really 296 00:23:56.880 --> 00:24:00.240 like what you said there about, you know, given up the flowers, 297 00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:04.119 because honestly, that's that's how you keep those collaborations going and build your reputation 298 00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:08.319 as a good collaborator to bring more people to you. So I think that's 299 00:24:08.359 --> 00:24:18.119 really important part. But let's take in the view real quick. Alright. 300 00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:23.039 So normally I have like a Confucius or like Rooney quote, Um, but 301 00:24:23.119 --> 00:24:29.400 since we got like the hip hop undertones here, I gotta, I gotta. 302 00:24:30.200 --> 00:24:37.680 I got a quote from fitty cent that look, look, look, 303 00:24:41.640 --> 00:24:45.799 because because the quote works. The quote works, the quote works. So 304 00:24:47.359 --> 00:24:49.519 the quote is, if it ain't making me money, making me better or 305 00:24:49.640 --> 00:24:55.359 making me happy, ain't making time for it. And so I think that 306 00:24:55.480 --> 00:25:00.920 kind of UH sums up the episode here. And you know exactly how Tomorrows, 307 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:07.119 or you know sin collaborates here is basically if it's not making the product 308 00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:11.480 better or him better by having that other person, you know, come to 309 00:25:11.519 --> 00:25:14.359 the table and share, you know, or we talked about in the last 310 00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:18.960 episode, Um, bringing the fire wood. Um, if everybody's bringing uh 311 00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:22.559 fire, then you can build a bigger fire. But everybody has to bring 312 00:25:22.359 --> 00:25:27.000 uh, you know, uh would to the table in order to actually contribute 313 00:25:27.039 --> 00:25:30.880 if they're gonna, you know, do it evenly. So, Um, 314 00:25:30.920 --> 00:25:37.039 I'm sorry, it was a fifty cent reference. Person did he just said, 315 00:25:37.160 --> 00:25:40.359 did he write it? But it doesn't matter. That collaboration made it 316 00:25:40.440 --> 00:25:45.079 worth it. That that's that's all. I'm Gonta saying. It added value. 317 00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:48.960 But but yeah, no, and I think Um, and just a 318 00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:52.000 disclaimer as well, so that the image that we've showed is actually only about 319 00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:56.119 half the image because we're wide screen here. Um, but we'll have to, 320 00:25:56.640 --> 00:25:59.599 I think we'll figure out a way to where we can post the whole 321 00:25:59.640 --> 00:26:03.720 image. You're in the I don't even think we have to. Don't I 322 00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:06.640 don't even think that we have to. We allow them to take in that 323 00:26:06.759 --> 00:26:10.000 view. If they want to take in a better view, they could look 324 00:26:10.079 --> 00:26:14.200 up. Who is it? Um, stop by on facebook. Maybe we 325 00:26:14.279 --> 00:26:17.480 could get, I won't say the rights. Maybe we get the opportunity to 326 00:26:17.519 --> 00:26:21.480 also posting on our page also just so you guys can see what that collaboration 327 00:26:21.599 --> 00:26:23.680 is like. You know what, he's gonna give it to US anyway, 328 00:26:23.680 --> 00:26:26.200 because that's the kind of guy he is. He just loves to collaborate, 329 00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:33.599 and that's just it. You need to tag him exactly, Jamar. How 330 00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:37.640 how can people find you? Shameless plug real quick shot, by saying on 331 00:26:37.759 --> 00:26:45.599 our social media platforms, instant facebook. Yeah, I've been trying to get 332 00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:52.839 Tristan to jump on Tiktok back now right, but don't worry, eventually he 333 00:26:53.240 --> 00:26:59.759 takes a minute with social media. But yeah, now around. He said 334 00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:03.680 coming around. He'll come around. Don't worry. I'm with him on the 335 00:27:03.759 --> 00:27:10.319 tape. I'm like one more social media platform to have to manage. I 336 00:27:10.359 --> 00:27:17.200 ain't taken in that view. Yeah, yeah, the PIL right. So 337 00:27:17.319 --> 00:27:22.319 that's my thing. Anything I'm making money, don't. At least the following 338 00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:26.240 is faster, like they're literally like you could go viral and Tiktok quicker than 339 00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:32.440 on any social media site. Okay, we need to continue this conversation in 340 00:27:32.559 --> 00:27:36.200 another episode. Like how you see? How that works is collapse. Just 341 00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:49.880 got really learn something. I'm so how do we close out? The time's 342 00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:52.319 up. I don't know how to close out. I just really love this 343 00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:56.880 collaboration. I need you guys to check us out on all social media platforms. 344 00:27:56.920 --> 00:28:00.640 It's an entrepreneurs trip. I don't think we got tiktok yet. Definitely 345 00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:03.920 check us out on instagram. We're on facebook. You got shot Bison. 346 00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:08.799 He said, all social media platforms. Chris is linkedin. He's a linkedin 347 00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:15.319 Google. Ain't nobody. Ain't nobody paid more professional than Chris's. Chris made 348 00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:21.319 a comment. I just saw numbers running, but we just got our own 349 00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:25.160 platform. Shelina holds it down on Linkedin, though. I'll tell you that. 350 00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:30.319 Yeah, he's a linkedin creator, though, and he's a lot. 351 00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:34.400 I'm learning from Chris on Linkedin. So, goodness, I gotta I got 352 00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:40.519 out my game, slacken, but really what I'd love to hear and when 353 00:28:40.519 --> 00:28:44.559 we talked about collaboration here, obviously in this episode and, uh, you 354 00:28:44.599 --> 00:28:48.000 know, tomorrow, thank you for Um sharing your wisdom with us, because 355 00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:52.359 I think it even helps add on to what we talked about previously about collaboration, 356 00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:56.119 just the three of us. Um any kind of final words or thoughts 357 00:28:56.279 --> 00:29:00.640 that that you have from this episode or about collaborating in general. Um, 358 00:29:00.759 --> 00:29:03.839 you know, for other entrepreneurs out there. Uh, you know, you're 359 00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:07.240 again at Shelanda called here serial entrepreneur, where you've got the clothing line, 360 00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:11.039 the music, the photography. So how? How? How do you do 361 00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:17.519 it? So, Um, juggling that and being a father is a lot. 362 00:29:17.880 --> 00:29:22.559 But at this time, um, it's no better feeling. I'm making 363 00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:26.559 your own money for yourself and you determine in the outcome of your destiny. 364 00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:32.400 So it's basically you can work for somebody else to build their dream or you 365 00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:34.519 can work for yourself and build your dream and bill your impult. So I 366 00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:37.240 feel like at the end of the day, yeah, we might work for 367 00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:42.680 other people, but that's just the short term to reaching your major lifeline goal. 368 00:29:42.839 --> 00:29:48.160 Yeah, I say so. Um, they have a saying there's always 369 00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:56.359 construction on the rule to success. M favorite codes of us. And Yeah, 370 00:29:56.440 --> 00:29:59.839 I just feel like as long as long as it makes sense, then 371 00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:04.240 makes sense. You know what I mean? So collaborations is key. Once 372 00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:08.359 everybody benefiting. I want to do something really, really quick. I know 373 00:30:08.440 --> 00:30:12.279 the episodes over this you could see the collaboration is really great because in every 374 00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:17.240 segment we just about when, over time, disregarded the rules. But real 375 00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:22.160 quick, Nadia, Nadia, Nadia, Nadia, I want to call you 376 00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:25.119 out. We need you, girl. I want to shoe you guys something 377 00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:29.200 too. In our collaborations and my collaborations with sin, we have conversations about 378 00:30:29.319 --> 00:30:33.279 just starting the business, throwing things in a different way. Um, sin, 379 00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:34.799 tell us how easy, how hard it was for you to start the 380 00:30:34.880 --> 00:30:38.880 business. Um. Sometimes we just need that push. Um, and it 381 00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:41.480 could be the people that's next to us, people we just met, because 382 00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:47.200 I won't pretend like I had a fifteen, ten, five year relationship with 383 00:30:47.319 --> 00:30:51.279 sincere. I just met him more recently, gotten, let me not say 384 00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:53.599 met him, I just got in to know him more recently, Um, 385 00:30:53.920 --> 00:31:00.720 maybe about six months now. Um. So we think starting a business doing 386 00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:04.160 things the right way is like super hard, and we always pasted to people 387 00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:07.799 that, you know, you've gotta be making x amount, you've gotta be 388 00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:11.839 doing this, but just tell them really quickly your your your journey. Just 389 00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:15.079 so share a little bit about the conversations we had before you start your business. 390 00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:18.039 Yes, so, before I started, I was literally just on the 391 00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:22.640 fly, just doing everything on my own, just doing shoots, doing everything. 392 00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:26.519 Be Interesting to talk for a couple of people spoke to me about, 393 00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:30.160 more so with me and Tristan how to talk recently, and he was like, 394 00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:37.200 Yo, with the business you even more opportunities to Um, to attain 395 00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:40.799 different things, like grants, different things. As far as that, they 396 00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:47.440 have going on government and given away money. So without that business license you 397 00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:49.160 and then you ain't sitting at the table, you know what I mean. 398 00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:55.799 So and that's how your point yourself this as a disadvantage compared to other people 399 00:31:55.960 --> 00:32:02.119 in your same field. And why not just make it official and be on 400 00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:07.240 board with everybody else that's doing it officially? In your feeling, if you 401 00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:09.880 want to be serious and people to take you serious, then you have to 402 00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:15.599 make that step and show them me serious and legitimize all your stuff and get 403 00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:17.680 everything the right way. You know what I mean that we reach out to 404 00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:22.319 tourisms, you can reach out to companies, because I did shoot for businesses 405 00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:24.880 like Vince stuff and because I wasn't in the system, it takes me like 406 00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:30.839 four or five months to get checked. MM HMM, literally once you're in 407 00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:35.720 the system. Now people already hitting me up, like from the government, 408 00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:38.039 saying, oh well, I was searching in the government database and you came 409 00:32:38.119 --> 00:32:43.920 up as a photographer, so without me having to even do anything, you 410 00:32:43.960 --> 00:32:47.920 know what I mean. So it helps a lot, really, really makes 411 00:32:47.960 --> 00:32:53.359 a lot of sense taking a step on legitimizing your business. I appreciate that, 412 00:32:53.519 --> 00:32:55.720 man, and that's how it is. I like to just close all 413 00:32:55.799 --> 00:33:00.400 this episode. For anybody WHO's watching just listening, you don't have to be 414 00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:04.759 a rocket scientists or start the business. Um. There's other people that you 415 00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:07.480 can collaborate with. These people all we need to do is your have that 416 00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:13.440 conversation. Any real entrepreneur that you meet, and I'll repeat, any real 417 00:33:13.759 --> 00:33:16.759 entrepreneur that you meet, is someone that's morning willing to share that information. 418 00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:22.640 We're not about holding and retaining the information for ourselves, and that's just it's. 419 00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:27.640 So don't let the process scare you. The only thing scary about being 420 00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:30.119 an entrepreneur is that is in your hunts. Whatever we put in is what 421 00:33:30.279 --> 00:33:35.920 we get out. So until the next time, I love you guys. 422 00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:43.079 Yeah, and enjoy your Greece. My mother gonna be on the trip, 423 00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:45.799 so she's gonna have a blast with eye. Ah, we gotta talk offline 424 00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:54.119 trip story. All right, trippers, thank you for joining us. We 425 00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:59.920 will be back next week and even for those of us who are not going 426 00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:01.440 to Greece, we will look forward to our next episode. For those of 427 00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:05.680 you in Greece, we will look forward to us and when you get back, 428 00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:09.079 and we're a little jealous. So enjoy Tad. I'm gonna have more 429 00:34:09.079 --> 00:34:14.840 on my kne Jack now and think about Greece. All right, see you 430 00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:21.679 later, everybody. Bye. Thank you for taking this trip with us. 431 00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:25.480 We hope you had a great time. 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