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March 22, 2022

Warren's [Suit]Case Story: Crucian in Atlanta

Warren's [Suit]Case Story: Crucian in Atlanta

We are taking a trip and unpacking the [Suit]case of Warren Mitchell, LCSW! As the CEO of Journey of Self Discovery, LLC, he is a Crucian King living in Decatur, GA. With over 30 years of experience, Warren is a Clinical Therapist, Life Coach, Spiritual Guide, and Clinical Supervisor. Using his model, he helps people, groups, and businesses to operate authentically—especially during times of crisis by taking ownership of the responsibility of their lives and businesses. To wrap up Series 2, Warren joins X.T.C. to talk and trip about the motivations and mindset of entrepreneurs. Come on and take this trip with us!

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.000 --> 00:00:07.400 Welcome to the entrepreneurs trip. We are EXTC. I'm Landa, I'm Tristan, 2 00:00:07.759 --> 00:00:12.720 I'm Chris. As an entrepreneur starting and growing your business, you may 3 00:00:12.759 --> 00:00:17.679 have a destination, but the journey getting there can be a trip. We 4 00:00:17.719 --> 00:00:23.079 want to be your travel companions and inject a dose of XTC as we explore 5 00:00:23.199 --> 00:00:29.199 real life conversations about navigating the world of entrepreneurship in the US and in the 6 00:00:29.239 --> 00:00:37.039 Caribbean. Today, I am so deeply honored to have our guests our pig, 7 00:00:37.159 --> 00:00:40.079 and before I let him talk, let me just let me just drop 8 00:00:40.079 --> 00:00:47.200 a little bit of tea about our guests today. Warren Mitchell. He has 9 00:00:47.240 --> 00:00:52.960 over thirty years of experience working with Youth, families and adults who are emotionally 10 00:00:53.600 --> 00:01:00.000 and spiritually distressed. He is a CEO of his private practice journey of self 11 00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:06.760 discovery, in Georgia, where he provides services as a clinical therapist, life 12 00:01:06.760 --> 00:01:12.400 coach, spiritual guide and clinical supervisor. Now, Warren comes qualified. He 13 00:01:12.480 --> 00:01:21.760 has a bachelor's degree in psychology from Sassisian University and earned his masters of social 14 00:01:21.760 --> 00:01:26.879 work with a concentration in administration, from the University of Pittsburgh, where it 15 00:01:26.879 --> 00:01:33.000 has developed a model that supports people, groups and the businesses to operate authentically, 16 00:01:33.799 --> 00:01:38.159 especially during times of crisis, by taking ownership of the responsibility of their 17 00:01:38.280 --> 00:01:48.599 lives and their businesses. Now for my Cruisian people, them okay, worried. 18 00:01:57.079 --> 00:02:01.040 We're so happy to have you on the show. Thank you all for 19 00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:07.400 having me. It is an honor and a privilege to just be here to 20 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:13.439 share my experiences, especially with fellow Caribbean and I Ridge a island. Does 21 00:02:13.560 --> 00:02:20.199 yes, man, listen you when you from the island, you could leave 22 00:02:20.280 --> 00:02:24.080 the island. You could consider yourself part of the Caribbean Diasporaba. Home is 23 00:02:24.120 --> 00:02:30.360 always home self right. We will what people them and we've adopted Chris. 24 00:02:30.400 --> 00:02:35.080 So we're NOTAS even Chris. Chris going to be honorary cruision before the end 25 00:02:35.080 --> 00:02:37.840 at his podcast. One. I hear, I hear, I hear how 26 00:02:37.840 --> 00:02:47.000 we call your name and him says Landa, what is Lear intonation in a 27 00:02:47.120 --> 00:02:55.120 cruiseian dialects. So yeah, I try track. So with this series we're 28 00:02:55.159 --> 00:03:00.719 really talking about the mindset, I'm motivation of being an entrepreneur to a you 29 00:03:00.759 --> 00:03:06.639 know, and as a life coach, in spiritual guide and a clinical therapist 30 00:03:06.680 --> 00:03:12.719 who is also an entrepreneur. We thought you were more than qualified to talk 31 00:03:12.759 --> 00:03:22.240 about this topic. So we've recorded in our two three previous podcasts about whether 32 00:03:22.479 --> 00:03:30.120 entrepreneurs are made up born. We've talked about the internal struggles, the motivations 33 00:03:30.159 --> 00:03:35.879 and the mindsets of being an entrepreneur, and then we talked about external factors, 34 00:03:35.919 --> 00:03:40.960 such as looking at market feasibility and doing business plans and stuff like that. 35 00:03:42.120 --> 00:03:49.479 So, Warren, share with us, share with us some nuggets that 36 00:03:49.520 --> 00:03:55.560 you think are important when thinking about mindset and motivation of being an entrepreneur. 37 00:03:57.599 --> 00:04:02.919 Oh Wow, there's, as a guess, a few mindset should be someone 38 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:08.800 who is not expecting to have immediate success, someone who's in it, and 39 00:04:08.879 --> 00:04:14.479 this is what a long haul and has the support to be able to help 40 00:04:14.520 --> 00:04:18.199 for the long haul, because doing this by yourself it can be pretty difficult, 41 00:04:18.279 --> 00:04:24.959 some lonely days and especially if you have a family. Yeah, you 42 00:04:25.079 --> 00:04:30.040 need to make sure you have the support because entrepreneurship there's there's no insurance and 43 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:34.279 and so many things that can afford you to take a break. So my 44 00:04:34.319 --> 00:04:39.560 wife, you know, she had that and and help me to be able 45 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:46.639 to focus on doing that. I'm mindset to be able to tolerate the beginnings 46 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:49.439 of the challenges that some people just want to jump in and start. Sometimes 47 00:04:49.439 --> 00:04:53.519 you have to deal with a job that you don't like, that helps you 48 00:04:53.560 --> 00:05:00.079 to sustain your livelihood, while you are slowly beginning on working on your passion 49 00:05:00.279 --> 00:05:04.680 and what you're interested and and and being mindful to to not neglect that major 50 00:05:05.040 --> 00:05:10.240 while you you are entertaining your passions. Sometimes some people, some of us, 51 00:05:10.240 --> 00:05:14.279 can do that, and so being being knowledge tole us to win, 52 00:05:15.040 --> 00:05:19.040 to jump off, and having again, the right set of people around you 53 00:05:19.079 --> 00:05:25.240 for guidance, and so being open to receiving information, to receiving guidance. 54 00:05:25.319 --> 00:05:30.120 Don't think just because you passionate about something doesn't mean that somebody else can't provide 55 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:35.839 you with some some education and guidance. Yeah, yeah, those are all 56 00:05:35.879 --> 00:05:43.040 go that seemed to restonate with you. That reason, I see the body 57 00:05:43.120 --> 00:05:49.279 language. I were you saying little, saying a lot, a lot, 58 00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:56.240 a lot of and again, like I spoke about this little back, but 59 00:05:56.879 --> 00:06:01.360 it's a fact that you can avoid it. Everything keeps keeps coming full circle, 60 00:06:01.399 --> 00:06:04.079 and I just want to share with us really quickly, and it's a 61 00:06:04.079 --> 00:06:13.120 concept of truth, right. So we look at as perception sometimes, because 62 00:06:13.199 --> 00:06:19.079 your truths might not be my truth. However, the truth is the truth. 63 00:06:19.199 --> 00:06:23.399 It's full body. It would always keep coming forward. So if you 64 00:06:23.439 --> 00:06:27.600 ask ante a story, if he's a lying, the story continuously change. 65 00:06:27.639 --> 00:06:32.639 Its continuously changing because there's no there's no information. Right, and I just 66 00:06:32.720 --> 00:06:38.040 want to share our truths with this and our truth is the fact that we 67 00:06:38.199 --> 00:06:44.360 keep having these discussions and keeps coming up. So Warren spoke about both when 68 00:06:45.199 --> 00:06:49.639 right, he mentioned network. You should I'm saying. He mentioned in Durance 69 00:06:50.360 --> 00:06:56.680 on the support was the network. And these are just sit the takeaways that 70 00:06:56.680 --> 00:07:02.879 that having been five minutes and I'm like, oh, wait for everybody. 71 00:07:03.360 --> 00:07:08.839 So I don't know how really really really want to problem. Well, I 72 00:07:08.920 --> 00:07:13.199 want to ask us in all and that's just that's just it. Like it's 73 00:07:13.240 --> 00:07:16.920 really resonating, it's really hitting home with the fact that the same things that 74 00:07:16.959 --> 00:07:21.920 we've been saying. We brought out a guest, no prey, and he's 75 00:07:21.959 --> 00:07:28.040 still saying the same things that we've said. You know, and that it 76 00:07:28.079 --> 00:07:33.519 goes to you're not on this trip alone. We look at anybody else and 77 00:07:33.639 --> 00:07:38.560 they man, they're moving forward, they're doing this, they don't not and 78 00:07:38.879 --> 00:07:41.560 all, I don't have it. I'm running out a gas. Well, 79 00:07:41.560 --> 00:07:46.839 guess what, we're running out of gas to right like, we're not better 80 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:51.279 than anybody else with the community where we're we're just sharing the information that we 81 00:07:51.319 --> 00:07:54.480 have. That it keeps come at full circle. You're going to hear a 82 00:07:54.480 --> 00:08:00.079 lot of information that seemed like it's redundant, but from different perspectives, because 83 00:08:00.279 --> 00:08:03.959 this is what really really hits home. It really hits home. So I'm 84 00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:07.839 just got off my school for a minute. I don't know who to talks 85 00:08:07.920 --> 00:08:13.680 to if I'm Taus in a Chris Learna like like it. I'm just really 86 00:08:13.720 --> 00:08:18.279 happy that he's saying what we say. I'll pass it to myself here. 87 00:08:18.279 --> 00:08:26.160 Actually, this is all right, I think. Well, first of all, 88 00:08:26.199 --> 00:08:30.399 again are everything you said was kind of reiterating what we had already talked 89 00:08:30.399 --> 00:08:35.919 about in our previous car podcast. So clearly you are living this as well 90 00:08:35.919 --> 00:08:39.360 in your own experience, in your own journey and singing and others as well. 91 00:08:39.559 --> 00:08:43.480 I think the thing that really stuck out to me was you mentioning that, 92 00:08:43.519 --> 00:08:46.240 no matter how passionate you are about a subject, that doesn't mean that 93 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:52.879 you can't learn from others or take something from somebody else's opinion, and so 94 00:08:54.000 --> 00:08:56.600 I think the one thing I just like to say that I think that's entrepreneurs 95 00:08:56.639 --> 00:09:01.399 you have to have that kind of like that steadfast, that vision, that 96 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:07.279 on wavering path. But I think at that focus needs to be on finding 97 00:09:07.279 --> 00:09:11.799 the solution and not on your idea of what that solution necessarily is. That's 98 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:16.679 fine because ultimately our goal is to when getting into business, is to help 99 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:20.480 others, you know, make the wroll the better place to provide for our 100 00:09:20.519 --> 00:09:26.080 family and and in doing that we just have to be cognizant of knowing that 101 00:09:26.120 --> 00:09:30.240 we are not the only ones who have ideas and that our ideas may be 102 00:09:30.360 --> 00:09:33.759 best with the input of others. So I just just reciate you bringing that 103 00:09:33.840 --> 00:09:39.679 to the table. Welcome one. Got One quick question. War. You 104 00:09:39.679 --> 00:09:43.200 said something that I'm not comfortable okay, and that's the cause. I heard 105 00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:48.000 it before, right when I was thinking about starring this business. Is the 106 00:09:48.039 --> 00:09:50.759 one thing I've ever really told you, guys, buzz that I haven't she 107 00:09:50.879 --> 00:09:54.600 does like taxes and stuff like that. I think I did tell you, 108 00:09:54.639 --> 00:10:00.240 guys she does taxes and stuff like that, and she said something that warrants 109 00:09:58.000 --> 00:10:05.039 sa I have here about like the jobs you don't let but she encouraged me. 110 00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:11.759 So I guess started job. Do Your job in in I don't want 111 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:16.000 to say what it is. I don't like. She encouraged me to take 112 00:10:16.039 --> 00:10:18.600 a job in video production. I guess it's to learn as much as I 113 00:10:18.600 --> 00:10:22.639 can and so in that way, when I decide to venture out, I 114 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:26.360 would have that knowledge, a kind of build my basis. Now the reason 115 00:10:26.360 --> 00:10:31.320 why I said it didn't mean comfortable. is we because then when she said 116 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:35.320 it, I was like to why does can do I want it? Why 117 00:10:35.440 --> 00:10:37.559 can't just do what I want? What I'm feeling goes to part of the 118 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:41.799 passionate curcio start shot on, because I might be passionate about something, that 119 00:10:41.919 --> 00:10:46.679 doesn't mean that I'm good at right now. So I just want to see 120 00:10:46.720 --> 00:10:50.639 what your take was, or your take is on just going that job first 121 00:10:50.639 --> 00:10:58.480 before necessarily start in business. Yeah, I think working for somebody else who 122 00:10:58.519 --> 00:11:03.480 is probably in the field that you're in or doing a job that's helping you 123 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:07.840 to do the job that you want to do for yourself. You can get 124 00:11:07.879 --> 00:11:13.120 more insights during that job and seeing how that person develop and learning from that, 125 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:16.919 instead of you having to reinvent the wheel and jumping and starting and costing 126 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:22.399 a whole lot of money, now you getting paid to learn things and make 127 00:11:22.399 --> 00:11:26.360 mistakes and and be on the job. And it's where in an entrepreneur you 128 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:31.840 are making mistakes, but you also pay for it. So it's not coming 129 00:11:31.879 --> 00:11:33.399 back to you right away, not right now, maybe later on. The 130 00:11:33.399 --> 00:11:37.120 mistakes, Billie lessons that you can build on. But if you're working for 131 00:11:37.159 --> 00:11:41.320 someone else in a job, they have even made this. They made those 132 00:11:41.360 --> 00:11:45.039 mistakes themselves. Have found answers that you can learn from and get that idea 133 00:11:45.200 --> 00:11:48.320 more easily implement when you start off doing your own thing. So I think 134 00:11:48.320 --> 00:11:56.639 it's important to not neglect or reduce the significance of working for someone, supporting 135 00:11:56.639 --> 00:12:01.039 someone on the journey, because when you grow you're going to want people to 136 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:05.639 support you're going to want people to work for you who are passionate and dedicated 137 00:12:05.679 --> 00:12:07.960 that, even if they have their own thing that they want to do, 138 00:12:07.159 --> 00:12:13.480 they're going to put that same emphasis into your business. And so you, 139 00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:18.519 you, you, and I like to send it just a little bit one 140 00:12:18.519 --> 00:12:22.200 way to get people who are working for you or if you're working for someone 141 00:12:22.279 --> 00:12:26.960 else to get more passionate about the job. You do see that job position 142 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:33.600 as Your Business, as your entrepreneur business, that your job title. That's 143 00:12:33.600 --> 00:12:37.159 my business. I'm going to run this as if it's it's mine and I'm 144 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:41.879 going to let whoever that I'm working for see that I care about this and 145 00:12:41.919 --> 00:12:46.879 hopefully they will recognize the work and energy that are putting into it and that 146 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:50.519 will benefit me, you know, somewhere, somewhere else. But don't just 147 00:12:50.639 --> 00:12:52.879 see a job you're working for for somebody else as just a job. It 148 00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:56.000 is your business. There's things you're going to learn, the things are going 149 00:12:56.000 --> 00:13:00.080 to learn about that that you can take with you when you leave. That 150 00:13:00.240 --> 00:13:05.000 passion will then carry over and be and you can hit the ground running because 151 00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:07.960 you have a mindset already, while you were working for someone else, to 152 00:13:07.960 --> 00:13:13.240 take your job seriously. If I could jump in there, because you're touching 153 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:18.440 on a lot of little points that I think are worthy of highlighting. In 154 00:13:18.480 --> 00:13:26.039 this conversation we've talked a lot about being an entrepreneur and we've made comparisons about 155 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:30.919 being in a job and working for an entrepreneur and, to your point, 156 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:35.399 Warren, being in a job and learning from somebody else who may be going 157 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:41.000 on that journey is valuable training wheels for you before you chat on your own. 158 00:13:41.519 --> 00:13:46.600 The thing I like to highlight in this conversation is, whether you're an 159 00:13:46.759 --> 00:13:52.840 entrepreneur or whether you're in a job preparing to be an entrepreneur, your personal 160 00:13:52.879 --> 00:14:01.440 brand, your reputation and the level of quality that you bring to whether it 161 00:14:01.559 --> 00:14:07.879 is a job or your business, is going to determine your success. It's 162 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:13.639 right. As an entrepreneur, and here's a case in point. I'll dree 163 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:20.919 are we on this platform? Chris from St Croix? Right. I met 164 00:14:20.039 --> 00:14:26.519 Tristan in St Crow. We worked on projects together produce high quality. People 165 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:31.120 would assume that I know Warren because Warren is also from St Croix. Not 166 00:14:31.320 --> 00:14:37.679 The case. I was on Linkedin and my sister and my friends tease me 167 00:14:37.679 --> 00:14:43.759 because they that you always on Linkedin. facebook. I'm like Watchni. FACEBOOK 168 00:14:43.840 --> 00:14:48.720 is for friends and family. Linkedin is to build my social capital. Hm. 169 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:52.639 Right, social capital is another topic we could touch on a little bit, 170 00:14:52.679 --> 00:14:58.120 because that's something that entrepreneurs need, right, but I would I met 171 00:14:58.120 --> 00:15:01.840 warring on Linkedin. And how did I meet Warren on Linkedin? I'm review 172 00:15:01.960 --> 00:15:09.519 you know, reading what's coming up in my feed and I see this gentleman 173 00:15:09.720 --> 00:15:13.799 in a v I mixed shut. So you know, I had to stop 174 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:26.840 right next. And then the contents of his post and the articulation of his 175 00:15:26.960 --> 00:15:37.000 perception of being in a river in Africa where slaves that were transported from their 176 00:15:37.200 --> 00:15:41.759 home line across the middle passage through be and had to travel, and just 177 00:15:41.799 --> 00:15:48.559 so authenticity and the passion really just was like a dagger in my heart. 178 00:15:48.720 --> 00:15:54.960 HMM, that's his brand, that's his essence. That's what caught my attention. 179 00:15:56.000 --> 00:15:58.320 To all, I my son, I need to notice dude. Yeah, 180 00:15:58.440 --> 00:16:04.320 and the Virgin Islands and told I was like he probably from some and 181 00:16:04.399 --> 00:16:11.519 Thomas, until we said tagged, but weren't. Where exactly are you from? 182 00:16:11.559 --> 00:16:18.360 You know, because we're using our standard English groove. I was like 183 00:16:23.519 --> 00:16:30.279 now, yeah, yeah, conversation. But to your point, you know, 184 00:16:32.320 --> 00:16:37.879 your brand, whether you're in a job or you have a business, 185 00:16:37.039 --> 00:16:42.879 is going to be presented to people before people even get to know you. 186 00:16:44.120 --> 00:16:49.559 That's right, that's right. That part of that entrepreneurial mindset, right. 187 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:52.919 You know, and I think you know, and that's why I have we 188 00:16:52.960 --> 00:16:56.679 have to be so careful even on the friends and family. To me, 189 00:16:56.759 --> 00:16:59.679 how I look at it, friends and family, social media, that my 190 00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:03.599 brand for me carries me over, that I'm consistent my professionalism and what I 191 00:17:03.599 --> 00:17:07.720 tell my clients is what how I live my life, you know. So 192 00:17:07.759 --> 00:17:11.759 I don't say one thing one area and in another area you see me in 193 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:15.400 another way. So I also do one of the things that that is shunned 194 00:17:15.759 --> 00:17:19.799 in my field as a therapist is don't have clients on your Social Media Network, 195 00:17:19.839 --> 00:17:23.039 and I could understand that. But coming from the islands, for me, 196 00:17:23.079 --> 00:17:26.640 when I started working at whom? At Catholic with Catholic charities or Catholic 197 00:17:26.640 --> 00:17:30.160 social services at that time, like some of the clients that came in, 198 00:17:30.279 --> 00:17:34.359 I saw them at other times when I'm hanging out at some else or doing 199 00:17:34.400 --> 00:17:38.359 something at some festival or something else. So it was that the village mentality 200 00:17:38.359 --> 00:17:41.799 for me, and so that keep me check that I have to make sure 201 00:17:41.839 --> 00:17:45.920 that I'm living my life in the way that I should, because never know 202 00:17:45.960 --> 00:17:49.279 who's watching and all. So I take that same concept in social media. 203 00:17:49.359 --> 00:17:52.559 Not all my clients, not even most my clients, have my social media, 204 00:17:52.599 --> 00:17:57.119 but some of them do and I want them to see that I'm living 205 00:17:57.119 --> 00:18:03.160 what I'm teaching and it's important. I will. Brand is not just something 206 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:07.160 we have in a business. The essence of the business is culture, to 207 00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:14.200 the values of what we are about. We carry it into other areas of 208 00:18:14.240 --> 00:18:21.319 our lives. That's what lights it. But Chrysler? Yeah, no, 209 00:18:21.359 --> 00:18:26.799 I think we were talking about Warren. That's really interesting. Is was just 210 00:18:26.920 --> 00:18:33.799 reading recently and the difference basically between your reputation and your character. Your character 211 00:18:34.079 --> 00:18:40.079 is who you truly are. Your reputation is who people think you are right, 212 00:18:40.279 --> 00:18:45.039 but your character will prevent you, will save you from a missed, 213 00:18:45.039 --> 00:18:48.359 our tarnished reputation where because other people will cup won't come and say like no, 214 00:18:48.519 --> 00:18:51.759 that's not who you know, that's not who Christis, that's not who 215 00:18:51.799 --> 00:19:00.039 warren is. The other thing I think that was really important that right before 216 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:07.319 we started recording this podcast and she landa was introducing Warren to Tristan I and 217 00:19:07.440 --> 00:19:11.000 she said that one of her favorite things about Warren is that he greets everybody 218 00:19:11.440 --> 00:19:17.559 on the island as either queen or King and that and how in Sean to 219 00:19:17.599 --> 00:19:18.599 mention how good that makes her feel. And she's like, I need my 220 00:19:18.799 --> 00:19:26.039 you know my dose of wars. But Warren, you're talking about, you 221 00:19:26.039 --> 00:19:30.960 know, getting people to to buy into your vision and a and as a 222 00:19:30.079 --> 00:19:33.880 leader, as an entrepreneur, to get people, whether it's your customers or 223 00:19:33.039 --> 00:19:38.480 potential employees or what have you. Without that character and without acknowledging people and 224 00:19:38.559 --> 00:19:44.200 making people feel that way, there's a book. You know how to win 225 00:19:44.240 --> 00:19:48.640 friends and influence people. People, no, Carnegie, and how you make 226 00:19:48.680 --> 00:19:52.960 people feel is oftentimes far more important than what you actually know about the subjects 227 00:19:53.000 --> 00:19:56.119 really right, and so I just want to you know, say Kuda, 228 00:19:56.119 --> 00:20:00.319 see you and let the audience know that you know, because we had recorded 229 00:20:00.359 --> 00:20:04.599 that just previously here. That clearly warrants. How he handles himself or how 230 00:20:04.599 --> 00:20:08.559 he handles others makes people feel a certain way or a positive way, and 231 00:20:08.720 --> 00:20:14.799 I think that's more of an intangible and entrepreneurship than actually having the technical know 232 00:20:14.920 --> 00:20:18.480 how is if you know how to manage the the people that are going to 233 00:20:18.519 --> 00:20:22.240 be looking at your idea and living and breeding it. So sure, for 234 00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:30.839 sure. Was that selble? Okay, it's quick. About the my said 235 00:20:30.079 --> 00:20:33.680 is a light. The fact that's the me. What brings it home to 236 00:20:34.640 --> 00:20:41.400 is warrant speak about holding your position as it's your position, as it's your 237 00:20:41.519 --> 00:20:45.359 business. I find like a lot of times like we don't treat these positions 238 00:20:45.480 --> 00:20:48.039 like that. We so I'm saying is just people just look at visit as 239 00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:52.519 a job, something I'm just doing. Job To me, Bacardim, is 240 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:56.680 really journey on the brokeness, because it's just a Pyche, you know, 241 00:20:56.599 --> 00:21:00.759 close to this is what it is that I'm doing. I'm a child. 242 00:21:00.839 --> 00:21:04.599 Durn it as much and I had a supervisor on recently passed and with more 243 00:21:04.720 --> 00:21:07.880 speaking, it resonated this one point that we all was used to speak about 244 00:21:08.440 --> 00:21:15.039 and it was like fable about the Great Wall of China, the guy that 245 00:21:15.119 --> 00:21:18.640 set out to do the Great Wall of China and never said I was going 246 00:21:18.720 --> 00:21:22.559 to build the Great Wall of China. What he said is that I'm going 247 00:21:22.599 --> 00:21:26.559 to lay each break to the best of my ability. So by the time 248 00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:30.960 he was finished, he never said the wall was great, but people said 249 00:21:30.160 --> 00:21:33.799 and called it the Great Wall of China, because you work to the best 250 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:38.279 of your ability, and that's one of the things. Like the supervisor, 251 00:21:38.359 --> 00:21:41.599 we would hit but heads every day, would argue every day, but we 252 00:21:41.759 --> 00:21:47.799 respected each other a lot and it was just a lot of these building blocks 253 00:21:48.279 --> 00:21:52.759 that I'll always take away from what it is that he said and I don't 254 00:21:52.960 --> 00:21:56.799 look at him as really an entrepreneur. At the same time, he was 255 00:21:56.880 --> 00:22:00.799 somebody that you could definitely learn from, not going away so to warrants point. 256 00:22:02.160 --> 00:22:04.759 To me it's again, when you treat and you do the work that 257 00:22:04.839 --> 00:22:10.000 the best of your ability, it's not got away on and and make sure 258 00:22:10.279 --> 00:22:15.160 you always approach it from the standpoint that you're learning and not that you know 259 00:22:15.400 --> 00:22:19.039 everything within that area. You know, we have all the choice but to 260 00:22:19.079 --> 00:22:26.319 flourish good. So, Warren, I'm interested, I'm a little curious. 261 00:22:26.559 --> 00:22:34.480 How did you decide to start your own private practice and what would you say 262 00:22:34.680 --> 00:22:41.440 are some of the key motivators for starting Your Business? I when I went 263 00:22:41.519 --> 00:22:45.599 to came into this field, I knew I wanted to do counseling. I 264 00:22:45.720 --> 00:22:51.160 really I thought I wanted to do a nonprofit so I could have different programs, 265 00:22:51.359 --> 00:22:56.000 mainly we youth was my focus at that time and because when I was 266 00:22:56.079 --> 00:23:00.519 growing up, well, when I when I was in an Undergrad, my 267 00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:03.480 first Undergrad, the Vrye, I went through so much and I didn't have 268 00:23:03.599 --> 00:23:07.119 anybody there for me, to help me understand what else and through or prepare 269 00:23:07.160 --> 00:23:11.839 me for college. And and I decided when I was going through and I 270 00:23:11.880 --> 00:23:15.720 got real depressed, I decided, like I want to be there for young 271 00:23:15.799 --> 00:23:22.240 people to help them through this and and you know, committed to God to 272 00:23:22.440 --> 00:23:23.680 give my life to go on. And it's like you help me through this 273 00:23:23.839 --> 00:23:27.359 and I promise I'm going to help, because I was I was just I 274 00:23:27.480 --> 00:23:33.880 was mentally out of it and you needn suicidal at one point and I got 275 00:23:33.960 --> 00:23:36.759 to this place. Like you know, helped me out of this and I 276 00:23:36.880 --> 00:23:40.640 can. I promised to give my life to serving young people and helping them. 277 00:23:40.720 --> 00:23:42.880 So I got I went back home. I was in Atlanta that time. 278 00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:45.640 I went back home to saying grow. I got involved in Youth Ministry 279 00:23:45.680 --> 00:23:52.200 at Sin Ans and working with young people and in working with young people, 280 00:23:52.279 --> 00:23:56.920 also saw the older folks, their parents and others, that they have problems 281 00:23:56.000 --> 00:24:02.480 too, and realize a lot of reasons why young people have problems is because 282 00:24:02.680 --> 00:24:08.039 their parents have problems that they never resolved from their own youth. And realize 283 00:24:08.240 --> 00:24:12.279 that if I'm going to really help young people, I need to help their 284 00:24:12.359 --> 00:24:15.319 parents. And I started focusing more on an adult. So I went back 285 00:24:15.400 --> 00:24:22.599 to school because my my first round of college was electronics engineering and then when 286 00:24:22.640 --> 00:24:26.079 I went through what I went through, I went back to Franciscan University and 287 00:24:26.160 --> 00:24:30.759 studied psychology. They got my bachelor was there and, as you pointed out 288 00:24:30.799 --> 00:24:36.079 earlier, by buying masters at, you know, University of Pittsburgh and social 289 00:24:36.160 --> 00:24:40.000 work. And because I relieve I had a gift learning from from my work, 290 00:24:40.039 --> 00:24:42.039 my work at said ends, I had a gift with counseling. I'm 291 00:24:42.079 --> 00:24:45.400 like, I don't want to study that, I want to study something some 292 00:24:45.640 --> 00:24:48.559 since I'm going to start my own business. I want to know more about 293 00:24:48.559 --> 00:24:52.160 administration and how to run it, and so that's why I concentrated in administration. 294 00:24:52.960 --> 00:24:57.200 And so when I graduated from there and got into the field, it 295 00:24:57.359 --> 00:25:00.839 was mainly working with with Youth and and and all that, but it's continued 296 00:25:00.880 --> 00:25:07.960 to reinforce the parents need a lot of help, and so I try starting 297 00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:11.960 a nonprofit, the nonprofit, and it was trouble trying to just get grants 298 00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:18.079 and I lean my reading it was easier to start a for profit and as 299 00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:22.519 an ll see, and so when I realized what I had to do, 300 00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:26.079 it at and there was not much to be done, and so eventually, 301 00:25:26.160 --> 00:25:30.319 after working, move to Atlanta. This was in Baltimore when I first started 302 00:25:30.400 --> 00:25:36.200 working after at Grad school and moved to Atlanta. I work for a couple 303 00:25:36.279 --> 00:25:41.119 other agencies and I was just frustrated with this system and I didn't feel free 304 00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:44.359 to do the work in the way that I know it can be done. 305 00:25:44.440 --> 00:25:48.599 It. I'm kind of Orthodox in in the way I do this work and 306 00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:55.839 and being bounded by certain policies keep me back from freely allowing my gift to 307 00:25:55.880 --> 00:26:00.200 flow. And so motivated me after the one agency, last agency was working 308 00:26:00.240 --> 00:26:07.559 for a close down to start that process. It was a struggle because I 309 00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:11.200 then I wasn't making money as much and it was, you know, hit 310 00:26:11.319 --> 00:26:14.920 and miss there. So I had to go find another job. And you 311 00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:18.480 know people who were telling me you are a black male with a license in 312 00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:22.640 Atlanta area, you are hot commodity, but nobody was hiring. I'm to 313 00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:26.599 experience and all that stuff, as I'm hearing. So I finally had to 314 00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:33.279 accept the job as an administrative assistant for program that works with young people and 315 00:26:34.119 --> 00:26:38.599 hummelliated and maybe, if you believe it is not the word humbolt that I 316 00:26:38.759 --> 00:26:45.480 was going, and I am being an executive administrator or executive assistant rather to 317 00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:51.200 to to someone who was a program director. And but I learned from that, 318 00:26:51.359 --> 00:26:55.119 from your felt that God was telling me be the best you that you 319 00:26:55.240 --> 00:26:59.720 can be in this space and gave it. Just like I said before, 320 00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:03.079 Your Business, your position, your business. So instead of letting your job 321 00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:17.400 be out to broke, you can your job on to business. Business. 322 00:27:17.559 --> 00:27:21.640 Yes, yes, that's that's and so that's that's what I did. I 323 00:27:21.720 --> 00:27:26.400 used to send out encouraging emails to the staff. I wasn't supervising them, 324 00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:27.720 but I know they were struggling, but it's what I would have done. 325 00:27:27.839 --> 00:27:33.160 And if I was a therapist working with my clients, I am the one 326 00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:37.200 whose license most of them are not, I'm providing some supervision for them and 327 00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:41.200 they in higher position then I am. And so it's part of the humility 328 00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:45.160 and but being the best me that I can be, no matter what position 329 00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:49.279 that I am in. Done that really helped me to to continue to build. 330 00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:55.759 I start, I got a contract to work with adults who in a 331 00:27:55.799 --> 00:27:59.880 pre child of version program. I was one of four, then I became 332 00:27:59.920 --> 00:28:03.319 one of three and one of two. Then I became the only one and 333 00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:07.160 I just grew and I couldn't have my full time job and my full time 334 00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:10.480 business at the same time and I had to leave. was finally, after 335 00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:14.400 eighteen months, leave the full time and on to my own and have been 336 00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:19.400 here fifteen years now. Wow, wow, wow. So you're in that 337 00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:26.240 what twenty five percent? How that survives the first three to five years, 338 00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:33.240 survived the first ten years. And Yeah, because in a previous podcast we 339 00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:40.240 shared those statistics and you know went as a new entrepreneur that maybe you know, 340 00:28:40.759 --> 00:28:45.720 a novice in this journey. Those statistics are daunting right, because it's 341 00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:51.079 like, okay, I'm pouring my heart, sweat and tears into this baby 342 00:28:51.160 --> 00:29:00.279 business and stats are working against me. So what would you say more three 343 00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:11.279 hop critical things that have helped you in your longevity as an entrepreneur? Really 344 00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:18.519 knowing what my my my passion and purpose was. That was important for me 345 00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:23.799 to have my job be my passion, my passion and it also was my 346 00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:29.720 purpose. Not Everybody's passion will be there, will be their job or for 347 00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:33.200 even purpose or not everybody's purpose will be their job, what they call it 348 00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:37.839 might be some people's calling is something that they do on a voluntary basis, 349 00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:41.160 but they have this job because they know they have to take care of themselves 350 00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:45.400 and their family. So a lot of people tend to think that they are 351 00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:48.279 calling has to be their job. It doesn't. For me, I wanted 352 00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:53.559 it to be, and so I pursued a career that m was something I 353 00:29:53.680 --> 00:30:00.319 was passionate about, and a lot of people who are working in their passion 354 00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:03.319 is because they have gone through some stuff, that it's personal. So when 355 00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:07.039 I went through my own mental health challenges and didn't have anybody there for me, 356 00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:11.359 it finally opened up. But when I take a look back and I 357 00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:14.960 look back at my years growing up and, you know, being shy and 358 00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:18.599 all that kind of stuff, I realize I always listen to other people. 359 00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:22.160 Didn't know about advice and how to get but I was a good listener, 360 00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:25.319 so I could defer sense. When I look back, there were traits of 361 00:30:25.480 --> 00:30:27.680 my calling that was there. I just didn't know how. I didn't noticed 362 00:30:27.880 --> 00:30:32.759 before. All right, and so I think if we pay attention to yet 363 00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:38.079 we are very we will see traits of what that calling is. A lot 364 00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:42.480 of sperments. They go through experience to awaken us to what that is. 365 00:30:44.079 --> 00:30:48.400 So, going back to your question, with three things, the passion and 366 00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:56.440 knowing what that was, having a partner who was supportive, who believed in 367 00:30:56.480 --> 00:31:00.160 it as well, because I couldn't do that without my wife being a part 368 00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:03.240 of this process. It would be a struggle. And having three kids and 369 00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:11.039 and doing a so and then being that I made it for me. It 370 00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:15.279 wasn't a job, it was a it was my way of life. Like 371 00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:22.000 I talked about before, this is something I would I I vibe in this 372 00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:26.160 way when I communicate with my friends, you know, when my friends come 373 00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:29.039 talk to me or if they come talk to me about anything, I but 374 00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:33.119 I teach my client as I teach them how I live, my clients I 375 00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:36.440 live. I live it with my friends and my family. So, being 376 00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:40.400 that this was an all encompassing this is what it was, all in alignment 377 00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:42.920 with the flow of who I believe that I am. I am and God 378 00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:48.079 called me to it was so easy to do. So going through the hard 379 00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:55.240 times isn't so hard. And so I I just like when I don't see 380 00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:59.119 myself doing this, I don't see myself being anywhere else and doing anything else. 381 00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:01.440 Like what else is there to do is going anything else. I that 382 00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:06.359 branches off of this has to do with something with helping people to take ownership 383 00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:13.440 of their lives, and Beautiful Ka listen as we can. I just say 384 00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:25.640 this real quick as a PhD candidates studying work passion, that's exactly exactly what 385 00:32:25.799 --> 00:32:31.000 I think is going to help entrepreneurs in longevity of their business. Is that 386 00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:37.079 passion. You had a partner, right, but having us a support system. 387 00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:45.359 I don't have a partner. Well, I supported that people, but 388 00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:52.640 I do have partners in in my life that are supporting my entrepreneurial journey, 389 00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:55.079 who are friends and colleague and mentors and all of that stuff. Going back 390 00:32:55.119 --> 00:32:59.680 to that social capital that we were talking about a little bit earlier, and 391 00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:05.839 then just making it a way of life. Living Authentically, operating your business 392 00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:12.160 authentically, right, are what our critical ingredients system, not only starting your 393 00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:15.039 businessing, but but being able to run them and make sure that they're sustainable. 394 00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:19.640 So I toss it to you, Tristan, right and as beautiful, 395 00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:27.400 we're always a tough act to follow. A couple things. I couldn't help 396 00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:34.279 myself but to stop clapping on more and because you're you just brought a couple 397 00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:38.480 things on home really quickly. One, how you send the emails out to 398 00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:45.400 the staff right. You have a conversation about all feasibilities and studies and sometimes 399 00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:51.319 I was like sometimes it's just the ingenuity of just wanting to do something because 400 00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:57.000 you know it feels right and not necessarily having to wait for research or something 401 00:33:57.079 --> 00:34:00.319 to tell you that you should be doing it. I mean, Chris Clap 402 00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:07.559 it up form on that. I've definitely appreciated that. Both are the simple 403 00:34:07.679 --> 00:34:12.559 things in life that people remember. You said. I'm saying so that was 404 00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:19.800 one on how to Steve Job's email to it's crazy as an entrepreneur because the 405 00:34:19.880 --> 00:34:23.519 one thing we do was find a reason right, find a way to do 406 00:34:23.639 --> 00:34:27.920 what it is I want to do. So you know what your passion was 407 00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:32.159 right and and we acknowledge what it is, what it is we know we 408 00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:37.239 want to do, but we found the tokens to the things we know. 409 00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:38.840 We weren't good at the part that we knew that we had to study. 410 00:34:39.519 --> 00:34:43.039 So you know, this is what it is you wanted to do. And 411 00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:46.119 then you took that curve. He was like, I we hitting this this 412 00:34:46.280 --> 00:34:52.639 way, check this out. I'm must study the business administrative part, because 413 00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:57.199 I know that I'm passionate enough to make this work, but what I might 414 00:34:57.360 --> 00:35:01.760 not know it's how to sustain it. Right, very good entrepreneural steps on 415 00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:09.519 the mind set, the mindset and motivation. So because you had your passion, 416 00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:15.239 your passion motivated you to pivot in a different direction, to strengthen the 417 00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:21.159 foundation to accomplish what it is that we truly want, all what that soul. 418 00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:34.320 So it goes with we spoke about nature versus nurture, right, and 419 00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:37.760 you talk like a characteristics, your trait. You listen, and that's who 420 00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:43.199 we spoke about this before to we're like sometimes be from a Caribbean like we, 421 00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:46.400 you know, we just don't know certain things, but the one thing 422 00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:51.559 that I feel we do very well is listen. You know, he listening, 423 00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:54.440 a radiant everything else. Yeah, that's what it is that we do 424 00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:59.719 listen and we're able to discern, start to push and keep gems from what 425 00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:02.360 they is that we're here like, Oh, okay, wait, so why 426 00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:07.400 did this? This didn't really work out. You know what, boom, 427 00:36:07.639 --> 00:36:09.280 maybe I need to be doing this. So nobody had to tell us the 428 00:36:09.400 --> 00:36:16.000 right thing to do, because we're always listening, because we're sharing information. 429 00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:22.280 I, like most entrepreneurs, we feel we're in it alone. Sometimes we're 430 00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:27.880 just not listening to other entrepreneurs telling us what it is that they endured. 431 00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:35.159 Alls to call it longevity. I keep calling it endurance, and that's worth 432 00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:42.960 and I appreciate your success right to one. I just want to share to 433 00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:49.599 me, the most important part is your failure, right, and it's perspective, 434 00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:52.599 because I kind of see look at your face like fail, we didn't 435 00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:57.599 quite oh no, you SA. I'm saying that the non profit like we 436 00:36:57.639 --> 00:37:00.719 would like to warn you like that. He's successful at what it is that 437 00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:06.599 he's doing. But what I'm appreciative for is the fact that when you run 438 00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:10.679 into when you ran into that stump with the nonprofit, it failed and we 439 00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:16.400 just pivot right and and that's that's I don't want to say the true essence 440 00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:21.599 of our entrepreneur endurance isn't the fact that, Oh, I'm just going to 441 00:37:21.639 --> 00:37:23.400 be in this for the long haul. It's not. We run into these 442 00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:29.039 these points, these challenges, sometimes we have to accept the fact that life 443 00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:31.280 just told us you got a pivot. Nice, you know I'm saying. 444 00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:35.199 I've been here and I really want to go this way and I can't go 445 00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:37.960 this way. Right, there's a way around it. Right, it's take 446 00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:40.920 US longer. But if this is what it is that we really want, 447 00:37:42.840 --> 00:37:45.960 we really really want, no longer how long that journey is, no long 448 00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:49.639 how long that trip is, we're going to take it. And you have 449 00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:52.079 your Pardner, so you didn't take your trip by yourself. You See, 450 00:37:52.079 --> 00:38:00.440 all know, there's a lot of love this my head. It's it's truly 451 00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:04.599 amazing thing. It's truly amazing. I said, I love the fact that 452 00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:08.119 you've just been sharing your nuggete. This is a small part of your experience, 453 00:38:08.679 --> 00:38:12.840 right, and I really want to hear more. Don't ask you what 454 00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:15.920 the more is, but I'm to the point where I just want to listen. 455 00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:17.960 I feel, if I'm not mistaking, might be an artist and or 456 00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:23.800 author. I am an a poet and I also I'm working on my book 457 00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:29.599 with the model that I have developed, focusing on taking ownership that a lot 458 00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:31.480 of people have benefited from, and so I just can't wait. Hopefully, 459 00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:37.239 by by September, October is when I should be finished. So hopefully that 460 00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:39.559 will be out. So I can't wait, because my next step for me 461 00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:43.719 is, you know, because I think about entrepreneurship, I think too we 462 00:38:43.880 --> 00:38:49.199 have to be be we have how our our somebody, my say heart. 463 00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:53.079 So the suppose will be sensing when it's time to as you start shift, 464 00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:58.360 we evolve. I am I I am an expert of what I do. 465 00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:02.079 I'm really damn good at what I do in doing one and one or couples 466 00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:07.239 or family therapy. I want to now be challenged to spread what I'm doing 467 00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:10.719 on a larger scale. I want to be able to do more of working 468 00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:15.480 with businesses and working with larger audience or and so creating workshops and trainings, 469 00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:22.039 maybe even online schooling, to reach more people, because right now, doing 470 00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:25.239 this the way that I'm doing it can be very stressful with the amount of 471 00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:30.000 people that I have to see to continue making having the success that I met 472 00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:32.880 that I'm having now, and it's I need. I want to I want 473 00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:37.239 to be able to spend more time doing other things that I enjoy doing and 474 00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:43.400 I have to find another way to pivot to still live out my passion and 475 00:39:43.639 --> 00:39:50.880 doing it differently where I can continue to enjoy what I'm doing. That's so 476 00:39:51.000 --> 00:39:59.320 happens when we recognize real warren as you pivot from being a individual doing that 477 00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:05.480 one and one or those group trainings to expanding and sharing your knowledge on our 478 00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:09.760 larger scale. We want you to come back, yes, for sure here, 479 00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:15.800 especially when you drop that book. Ye, to come back share and 480 00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:20.400 we are going to talk off line about potential partnership opportunities, because you know 481 00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:25.920 that's what entrepreneurs do. How can we hope and what it is that we're 482 00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:31.079 doing? Not to trip over for you, Tristan, but I wanted to 483 00:40:31.199 --> 00:40:37.400 give Chris an opportunity to chime in before we start to bring this podcast episode 484 00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:43.760 to a close. Any anything that resonated with you, Chris? Yeah, 485 00:40:43.800 --> 00:40:50.519 absolutely. I think the biggest underlying thread that I heard through this conversation with 486 00:40:50.599 --> 00:40:55.679 Warren Story here is that Warren has, from the start, before he even 487 00:40:55.760 --> 00:41:00.800 opened the doors to his business, figure it out with what his purpose, 488 00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:06.079 personal purpose was, his personal business plan in terms of who he is and 489 00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:10.519 who he wants to be and what he wants is life to look like. 490 00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:15.480 And Warren, I mean correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like 491 00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:22.440 you're your business, your entrepreneurial journey is really meant to supplement who you are 492 00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:25.639 and who you want to be because you are. Were already writing those emails 493 00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:30.960 and your other job as administrative assistant. You know the things that would you 494 00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:34.480 would have done as a business owner, but you already just do and get 495 00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:38.119 building that human capital, that that social capital, just because that's who you 496 00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:43.719 are. So and Tristan, you mentioned that. You know Warren talked about 497 00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:46.559 kind of the the failure, the failing for US an entrepreneur, realizing that 498 00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:51.880 time to pivot. I feel like if you align your business, your entrepreneurial 499 00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:55.920 goals with who you want to be and who your character is and who you're 500 00:41:57.480 --> 00:42:00.480 want to be from an integrity standpoint, that the business parts are kind of 501 00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:05.880 that they can fail or they or they can go off course at times, 502 00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:08.480 because as long as you're sustaining true to your own compass, and you know, 503 00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:13.920 Warren, you spoke to your heart and your passion, if that's leading 504 00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:16.639 the way, then your business endeavors are ultimately going to find a way to 505 00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:22.760 fulfill that need and to fitfill who you want to be. So I just 506 00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:28.000 want to let people know that that because I it was one of the biggest 507 00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:31.400 pieces of advice in my entrepreneurial journey before I opened my doors. I met 508 00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:35.199 with the local business owner here in Orlando and I was like, you know, 509 00:42:35.480 --> 00:42:37.519 I want to be an entrepreneur. I don't want to work for anybody 510 00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:40.159 else anymore, but I don't know what I want to do. In advice 511 00:42:40.360 --> 00:42:43.440 to me was, well, if you haven't figured out what you want to 512 00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:45.639 do yet, figured out who you figure out who you want to be first 513 00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:50.639 and what you want your life to look like, and and then work backwards 514 00:42:50.679 --> 00:42:52.280 to figure out what kind of business is going to get you to that point. 515 00:42:52.639 --> 00:43:00.199 Love the yeah, so seriously, definitely, it's, you know, 516 00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:05.400 it's learning to live from that space and being true, living with integrity and 517 00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:08.800 being true to myself. It's not, again, that's what just for business. 518 00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:15.639 It's personal and I want my kids to be able to witness that and 519 00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:17.920 see that, even like some people out of successful people, you know, 520 00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:23.960 they're successful in public, but at whom their lives are miserable and they don't 521 00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:29.719 treat their family right and when it be business owner is so pastors or what 522 00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:32.639 not, and I don't I didn't want that. I want what my kids 523 00:43:32.760 --> 00:43:37.400 saw out there. They were still witnessing it at home as well, and 524 00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:40.400 so I think that level of integrity, as you were talking about, Chris, 525 00:43:40.599 --> 00:43:46.719 to have your business be an expression of who you are. It makes 526 00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:51.880 it easier to to go through the challenges that you go through. But you 527 00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:58.440 also have to be mindful to not personalize. If the business is failing or 528 00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:01.239 if the business has failed, it doesn't mean you have failed. It just 529 00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:06.400 probably mean there's another way. As to Christian you've said, is another way 530 00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:10.280 to do this and so to to learn from the failures, that failures and 531 00:44:10.360 --> 00:44:15.599 how I tell some of my clients that failure is not your enemy. No 532 00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:20.920 struggles, pain suffering is not your enemy. When you walk in your authority 533 00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:24.960 of who you are and your core, your pain, your misery or struggle 534 00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:30.039 is meant to serve you. But if you don't walk in your authority, 535 00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:32.719 you will begin to serve your emotions and your ego and they will dictate how 536 00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:44.639 you live your life. Warrant. That was awesome. Oh My Gosh, 537 00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:52.679 King Warren Michrisham brought yes, I we need to have you back. This 538 00:44:52.280 --> 00:45:00.480 kind just guant too fast. That will just tool shot. So we back. 539 00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:05.400 We don't have you back. There's you have so much knowledge to share 540 00:45:05.960 --> 00:45:09.960 and your perspective is just you know what. It's true to your brain. 541 00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:14.360 I just feel good. You guys feel good. I just feel good like 542 00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:20.280 I thought of virtual called the from King Waren, from con yes, yes, 543 00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:25.119 yes, thank you, thank you. Thank you so much. Listen, 544 00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:31.159 guys. 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